Re: [dnssd] Call for agenda items: DNSSD at IETF 105 in Montreal

Stuart Cheshire <cheshire@apple.com> Wed, 10 July 2019 01:52 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dnssd] Call for agenda items: DNSSD at IETF 105 in Montreal
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On 2 Jul 2019, at 17:07, David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> DNSSD has been scheduled on Thursday, 2019-07-25 at 13:30-15:30 EDT.
> 
> If you would like to present, please reply to this thread,
> or email <dnssd-chairs@ietf.org> with:
> - title of presentation
> - related draft(s) if applicable
> - expected duration
> - name of presenter
> Please also let us know if you will be presenting remotely
> or have any specific requests or questions.

Here are some items for discussion:

Last Call feedback on draft-ietf-dnssd-push
We have two hot topics to resolve:
1. TLS close_notify vs. TCP reset
2. Allowing subscribe request in TLS early data?
Estimate 20 minutes

As Ted Lemon noted earlier today:
1. Implementation updates on draft-ietf-dnssd-hybrid, draft-ietf-dnssd-mdns-relay, including possibly a live demo.
2. Status update on draft-ietf-dnssd-srp

Finally, an important thing: Discussing the future of the DNSSD Working Group.

1. Draft-ietf-dnssd-srp is important for efficient reliable service discovery on mesh networks, such as Thread wireless home automation networks, and multi-link routed home networks such as envisioned by Homenet. Is there sufficient energy to pursue this work in the IETF, or will it end up moving somewhere else, like the Thread Group?

2. Privacy-respecting device and service discovery remains a very important topic, but in the past we struggled to find implementers creating real products that needed the privacy mechanisms we were considering. Is that still true? With increasing public awareness of the importance of privacy, we may see renewed interest in this area. It would be a pity to give up on this work just as its importance is being recognized.

Stuart Cheshire