Re: [dnssd] SRP: Name Conflicts Handling
Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Fri, 15 January 2021 14:30 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dnssd] SRP: Name Conflicts Handling
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How about including an additional section on the response that includes the conflicted names and rrtypes with zero length data? Or just pointing to the root? > On Jan 15, 2021, at 01:03, Kangping Dong <wgtdkp@google.com> wrote: > > > Hi DNSSD enthusiasts, > > For Service Registration Protocol (SRP), when a SRP server receives a registration with names > that have already been taken by another client, it responds with a YXDOMAIN error code to indicate > name conflicts. When the client receives such a response, it typically will re-generate a new host or > service instance name and re-register with the new name. > > The problem is that a typical SRP update will include one Host Description Instruction and one (or more) > Service Description Instructions (zero Service Description Instruction is allowed but it is more common > that the client registers the host with some service instances). Name conflicts can happen on both Host > Description instruction and Service Description Instruction, but there is no description of how to tell the > client which instruction includes the conflict (or both include conflicts). Currently, the client needs to re-new > both host name and service instance name or re-new a single name and starts a trial-and-error process > until it finally succeeds. > > One solution is, the server/registry responds with the Instruction(s) which has name conflicts. For the > client, it should check the RRs in the response to get the conflicting name if a YXDOMAIN response > code is received. To Reduce data transported between the server & client, the server may just include > one RR, but not the entire Instruction, that contains the conflicting name. > > Thoughts? > > > BRs, > Kangping >
- [dnssd] SRP: Name Conflicts Handling Kangping Dong
- Re: [dnssd] SRP: Name Conflicts Handling Ted Lemon
- Re: [dnssd] SRP: Name Conflicts Handling Kangping Dong
- Re: [dnssd] SRP: Name Conflicts Handling Ted Lemon
- Re: [dnssd] SRP: Name Conflicts Handling Kangping Dong
- Re: [dnssd] SRP: Name Conflicts Handling Ted Lemon
- Re: [dnssd] SRP: Name Conflicts Handling Kangping Dong
- Re: [dnssd] SRP: Name Conflicts Handling Ted Lemon
- Re: [dnssd] SRP: Name Conflicts Handling Kangping Dong
- Re: [dnssd] SRP: Name Conflicts Handling Ted Lemon
- Re: [dnssd] SRP: Name Conflicts Handling Kangping Dong
- Re: [dnssd] SRP: Name Conflicts Handling Ted Lemon
- Re: [dnssd] SRP: Name Conflicts Handling Kangping Dong