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Re: [Doh] New I-D: draft-reid-doh-operator

"Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com> Tue, 12 March 2019 16:58 UTC

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From: "Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com>
To: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
CC: Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com>, DoH WG <doh@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Doh] New I-D: draft-reid-doh-operator
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On 3/12/19, 11:30 AM, "Doh on behalf of Stephane Bortzmeyer" <doh-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of bortzmeyer@nic.fr> wrote:

    On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 01:25:54AM +0000,
     Livingood, Jason <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com> wrote 
     a message of 15 lines which said:
    
>    > I think a slight difference is that with public DNS services, the
>    > uptake occurs gradually as each individual user makes an explicit
>    > choice. This isn't the case should large apps enable DoH.
    
 >   Hmmmm, usage of Google Public DNS or similar services is not always
    decided by the individual. A lot of WiFi hotspots, hotels, schools,
    even Internet access providers, configure the DHCP server to indicate
    Cisco OpenDNS or another public resolver as the DNS resolver to use.

[JL] Yes, of course, but that's generally the exception to the rule.
    
>    Also, applications talking directly to the DNS resolver, bypassing the
    system-wide configuration was possible even before DoH.

[JL] Yes, but the effects of consolidation have changed the nature of this equation IMO.

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