Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal for transport indication in draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-wireformat-http
Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> Wed, 04 April 2018 16:30 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal for transport indication in draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-wireformat-http
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Martin Thomson wrote: > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 11:27 PM, Paul Hoffman<paul.hoffman@icann.org> wrote: >> Martin: Are you saying that you want DOH to remove the optional parameter from the application/dns-udpwireformat registration? If so, what do you propose for the DNSOP WG? > > Right now, abandon draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-wireformat-http. But I'll > concede that I'm probably missing something. the use case is not well-expressed. as a co-author, i apologize. > By my current understanding, draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-wireformat-http is > indistinguishable from a specific implementation of > draft-ietf-doh-dns-over-https. That is, if a DOH server wanted to > service all its queries by forwarding requests to a resolver [1], I > can't see how that would be disallowed by DOH, and that's exactly what > draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-wireformat-http appears to describe. it's a high-fidelity virtual middlebox, to work around low-fidelity actual middleboxes. it is not a new dns transport protocol, which would require client and server changes. dns-over-https is a thin drop-in. -- P Vixie
- [Doh] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-iet… Davey Song
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification f… Richard Gibson
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification f… Dave Lawrence
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification f… Davey Song
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification f… Bob Harold
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification f… Davey Song
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification f… Dave Lawrence
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification f… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification f… Bob Harold
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification f… Paul Vixie
- [Doh] Alternate proposal for transport indication… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] Alternate proposal for transpor… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Re: [DNSOP] Alternate proposal fo… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] Alternate proposal for transpor… Davey Song
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Re: [DNSOP] Alternate proposal fo… Davey Song
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Re: [DNSOP] Alternate proposal fo… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] Alternate proposal for transport indica… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Doh] Alternate proposal for transport indica… Davey Song
- Re: [Doh] Alternate proposal for transport indica… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal for transp… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] Alternate proposal for transpor… Dave Lawrence
- Re: [Doh] Alternate proposal for transport indica… Davey Song
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal for transp… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Dave Lawrence
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal for transp… Davey Song
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Ray Bellis
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Ray Bellis
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Ray Bellis
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Tony Finch
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Tony Finch
- Re: [Doh] [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Alternate proposal fo… Martin Thomson