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Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC

Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com> Thu, 07 February 2019 14:28 UTC

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> On 7 Feb 2019, at 14:20, Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com> wrote:
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> but this looks more like a job for DPRIVE, which has the word "policy" in its charter and "Document Best Current Practices for operating DNS Privacy services"

OTOH DoH didn’t exist when DPRIVE was created and what was meant then by DNS privacy is not quite the same as is meant today.

I think DoH is the better choice. Though there’s enough ambiguity/overlap between the WGs that the ADs might need to decide this.

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