Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-hoffman-resolver-associated-doh
Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> Tue, 29 January 2019 14:48 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-hoffman-resolver-associated-doh
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On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 12:25:55AM +0000, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@icann.org> wrote a message of 121 lines which said: > I did a short presentation on "Associating a DoH Server with a > Resolver" > (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hoffman-resolver-associated-doh/) > at the DNSOP WG. The presentation ended with the question of whether > the draft should be taken up in a WG, and if so, where. I tend to say Yes, because it is an interesting and useful subject. However, I also tend to agree with Stephen Farrell that a general "DNS resolver discovery solution", not limited to DoH, would be a good idea. In the current draft, I have a big concern about the idea of an application (for instance the Web browser) having a specific DNS resolver (section 5 of draft -07), different from the rest of the applications on the same machine. It will be a nightmare to debug DNS issues with such a setup. We cannot prevent people for doing bad choices like this one but we should not condone it in a RFC. IMHO, the correct setup is a shared DoH client, running on the local machine (stubby, systemd-resolve, etc) or on the CPE. [This is a purely technical issue, different for the more political one raised by Bert Hubert.]
- [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-hoffm… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Jim Reid
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ralf Weber
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… A. Schulze
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Jim Reid
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… A. Schulze
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ralf Weber
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Request for the DOH WG to adopt d… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: Request for the DOH WG t… Winfield, Alister
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: Request for the DOH WG t… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Request for the DOH WG to adopt d… John Dickinson
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] Request for the DO… Winfield, Alister
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] Request for the DO… Jim Reid
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] Request for the DO… Winfield, Alister
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Request for the DOH WG to adopt d… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Request for the DOH WG to adopt d… John Dickinson
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ralf Weber
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Tony Finch
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… bert hubert
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… bert hubert
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: Request for the DOH WG t… Winfield, Alister
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… John Dickinson
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Re: Request for the DOH WG to ado… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Re: Request for the DOH WG to ado… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… nigel.tedeschi