Re: [Doh] [Ext] Re: Associating a DoH server with a resolver

Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> Wed, 24 October 2018 16:18 UTC

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On 10/24/18 11:11 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> You should be able to use ACME in the future to get an IP-based certificate. draft-ietf-acme-ip has been submitted to the IESG for publication.


And CAB forum rules have allowed issuance of such certs for quite a 
while now. The issue isn't technology or permission -- it's CA policies. 
I think you'd need to find CAs willing to issue such certs before you 
feel comfortable predicating a technology on them.

/a