Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC
Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> Thu, 07 February 2019 13:03 UTC
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Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 14:03:13 +0100
From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
To: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
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Subject: Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC
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On Thu, Feb 07, 2019 at 07:55:46AM -0500, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote a message of 90 lines which said: > You could get into a really big fight with the HRPC folks about this > statement. I'll ask them :-) > DoH is perfectly designed to support the DoC use case, so doesn’t > that mean that it effectively _is_ DoC? It’s only _not_ DoC if > there’s some way to prevent it from being DoC, and there isn’t. > So you might as well own it. The protocols are not innocent (they enable, they encourage, they discourage) but they are not everything either. The dominance of Gmail is not written in RFC 5321. DoH helps DoC ("helps", not "enables", DNS over HTTPS was possible before), it does not decide DoC.
- [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC bert hubert
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Ted Lemon
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Ted Lemon
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Shane Kerr
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Ralf Weber
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Ted Lemon
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Jim Reid
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Ted Lemon
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Jim Reid
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Valentin Gosu
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Jim Reid
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Adam Roach
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Eliot Lear
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Paul Hoffman
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- Re: [Doh] [Ext] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Jim Reid
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Adam Roach
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Adam Roach
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] panel discussion on DoH/DoC bert hubert
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Eliot Lear
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Adam Roach
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Shane Kerr
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Martin Thomson
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Eliot Lear
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Jim Reid
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC Stephen Farrell