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Re: [Doh] panel discussion on DoH/DoC

Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> Thu, 07 February 2019 13:03 UTC

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From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
To: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
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On Thu, Feb 07, 2019 at 07:55:46AM -0500,
 Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote 
 a message of 90 lines which said:

> You could get into a really big fight with the HRPC folks about this
> statement.

I'll ask them :-)

> DoH is perfectly designed to support the DoC use case, so doesn’t
> that mean that it effectively _is_ DoC?   It’s only _not_ DoC if
> there’s some way to prevent it from being DoC, and there isn’t.
> So you might as well own it.

The protocols are not innocent (they enable, they encourage, they
discourage) but they are not everything either. The dominance of Gmail
is not written in RFC 5321. DoH helps DoC ("helps", not "enables", DNS
over HTTPS was possible before), it does not decide DoC.

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