Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-hoffman-resolver-associated-doh
Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com> Tue, 22 January 2019 12:50 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-hoffman-resolver-associated-doh
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On 22 Jan 2019, at 12:15, Winfield, Alister <Alister.Winfield=40sky.uk@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > how about putting the information in the reverse zone for the resolver. > ... This is delegated and could be DNSSEC signed. It won't work for RFC1918 address space. The bootstrapping problem isn’t solved either. Presumably you’d still be relying on DHCP or something equally insecure to get the IP addresses of the resolving servers. If a stub resolver gets configured in some other way -- editing /etc/resolv.conf for instance -- that might as well include whatever voodoo is needed for trusted DoH or DoT servers. And what if that reverse zone isn’t signed? Then there are the issues when that zone isn’t managed by the same entity which manages the corresponding forward zone. This is quite common. For example, if I was a Sky customer I very much doubt I’d be able to add/remove/replace one of these hypothetical RRs in whatever Sky reverse zone happens to be “hosting” the IP address of my DoH server today. And if/when I reconnect to your net and get a different IP address, what happens to the old TXT record? > If my resolver is a.b.c.d then you could put TXT records in the reverse.. That’s a Bad Idea. TXT records are already overloaded (abused?) for all sorts of things. A discrete RRtype would be better. Assuming this suggestion got picked up.
- [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-hoffm… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Jim Reid
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ralf Weber
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… A. Schulze
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Jim Reid
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… A. Schulze
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ralf Weber
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Request for the DOH WG to adopt d… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: Request for the DOH WG t… Winfield, Alister
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: Request for the DOH WG t… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Request for the DOH WG to adopt d… John Dickinson
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] Request for the DO… Winfield, Alister
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] Request for the DO… Jim Reid
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] Request for the DO… Winfield, Alister
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Request for the DOH WG to adopt d… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Request for the DOH WG to adopt d… John Dickinson
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ralf Weber
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Tony Finch
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… bert hubert
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… bert hubert
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: Request for the DOH WG t… Winfield, Alister
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… John Dickinson
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Re: Request for the DOH WG to ado… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Re: Request for the DOH WG to ado… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… nigel.tedeschi