Re: [Doh] Proposal for a side-meeting on services centralization at IETF 104 Prague

Warren Kumari <> Tue, 12 March 2019 06:46 UTC

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On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:58 AM Stephane Bortzmeyer <>

> [Sorry for the long list of working groups but the discussion already
> started in different places.]
> There are been some discussion about DoH (DNS-over-HTTPS, RFC 8484)
> deployment and the risk of centralization of Internet services.

> for instance drafts [this is not an endorsement]
> draft-bertola-bcp-doh-clients, draft-reid-doh-operator and
> draft-livingood-doh-implementation-risks-issues.)
> It was suggested <wikipedia>Reference necessary</wikipedia> to have a
> side meeting in Prague at IETF 104. I propose monday, 1400-1600 in
> Tyrolka. The proposal is at
> <>. You
> are welcome to agree/disagree/meet in a bar instead.

[ Replying here instead of bottom of thread ]

Thank you for proposing / organizing this - there has been a lot of
discussions, but (as demonstrated by the list of WGs in the To: line) it is
somewhat unclear where the discussions should happen -- I'm planning on
asking the secretariat to please make us a mailing list to better focus the
discussions -- does anyone have a strong objection to this?

(also, a good suggestion for a name would be helpful :-))


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I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in
the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of