Re: [Doh] [dns-privacy] [DNSOP] New: draft-bertola-bcp-doh-clients

"Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy" <TirumaleswarReddy_Konda@McAfee.com> Tue, 12 March 2019 05:32 UTC

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From: "Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy" <TirumaleswarReddy_Konda@McAfee.com>
To: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>, Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 11:49 PM
> To: Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org>
> Cc: nalini elkins <nalini.elkins@e-dco.com>om>; Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy
> <TirumaleswarReddy_Konda@McAfee.com>om>; doh@ietf.org; dnsop@ietf.org;
> Ackermann, Michael <mackermann@bcbsm.com>om>; Christian Huitema
> <huitema@huitema.net>et>; dns-privacy@ietf.org; Vittorio Bertola
> <vittorio.bertola=40open-xchange.com@dmarc.ietf.org>rg>; Stephen Farrell
> <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
> Subject: Re: [Doh] [dns-privacy] [DNSOP] New: draft-bertola-bcp-doh-clients
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> > On 11 Mar 2019, at 19:12, Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > nalini elkins wrote on 2019-03-11 10:26:
> >> Tiru,
> >> Thanks for your comments.
> >> > Enterprise networks are already able to block DoH services,
> > i wonder if everyone here knows that TLS 1.3 and encrypted headers is
> going to push a SOCKS agenda onto enterprises that had not previously
> needed one, and that simply blocking every external endpoint known or
> tested to support DoH will be the cheaper alternative, even if that makes
> millions of other endpoints at google, cloudflare, cisco, and ibm unreachable
> as a side effect?
> 
> That or it will require a bit more management at the MDM level.  I’m hoping
> the latter.  And I hope that one output of all of these documents will be a
> recommendation regarding MDM interfaces.

I don't think MDM is required to use the DoT/DoH servers provided by the local network.

-Tiru

> 
> Eliot