Re: [Doh] [Ext] Re: Use cases and URLs

Patrick McManus <pmcmanus@mozilla.com> Wed, 07 March 2018 23:10 UTC

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On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com>
wrote:

>
> it's also an attack vector if only your vendor can control how it can
> be used.  If _that's_ what we think we're building, then I at least
> was fooled by the charter.
>

I think we all support configuration by URL. Paul is simply advocating for
an optional layer of indirection in discovering that URL (and please
correct me if I'm wrong on that). I don't think that would have a material
impact on what products would allow configuration and which wouldn't
(though it obviously could impact how)...