Re: [Doh] Working Group Session Agenda @ Prague

"Martin Thomson" <mt@lowentropy.net> Wed, 13 March 2019 22:02 UTC

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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 18:02:10 -0400
From: "Martin Thomson" <mt@lowentropy.net>
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Subject: Re: [Doh] Working Group Session Agenda @ Prague
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Given the volume of discussion on-list about the latter two talks, and the absence of any significant time for open discussion, what do you expect us to gain from this session?  I fully support spending the bulk of the time here on resolver-associated, but I'm concerned that having the same presentation given twice in the balance of time.  It could be three if you wanted to use the last 10 minutes on draft-bertola-bcp-doh-clients. 

Having a clear goal in mind might help this be a productive use of time; and - if I might suggest - a shorter period of presentation (maybe Jim can negotiate with his co-author) followed by a very narrowly scoped discussion would be useful.  There are lots of different concerns in these drafts, but maybe we can find one key point to concentrate on.  I don't see us being able to settle one, let alone two, but we might get further into a single topic. 

If I were to offer a suggestion for that topic, I'd want to talk a little about the indistinguishability characteristics of DoH as distinct from DoT.  And the operational consequences of the same.  That seems well within the remit of this group.

On Thu, Mar 14, 2019, at 02:17, Dave Lawrence wrote:
> * Note Well
>   https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/
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> * draft-ietf-doh-resolver-associated-doh, Paul Hoffman, 30 minutes
>   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-doh-resolver-associated-doh/
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> * draft-livingood-doh-implementation-risks-issues, Jason Livingood, 10
>   minutes
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> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-livingood-doh-implementation-risks-issues
> 
> * draft-reid-doh-operator, Jim Reid, 10 minutes
>   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-reid-doh-operator/
> 
> * Open discussion
> 
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