Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-hoffman-resolver-associated-doh
"Ralf Weber" <dns@fl1ger.de> Wed, 23 January 2019 08:18 UTC
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From: Ralf Weber <dns@fl1ger.de>
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 09:18:42 +0100
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Subject: Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-hoffman-resolver-associated-doh
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Moin! On 23 Jan 2019, at 8:25, Daniel Stenberg wrote: > For me, one of the key elements and features with DoH is that I as a > user have picked a DNS provider I decide to trust. That is a decision maybe you or me can take as an informed user with knowledge of how networks work. Most users and I’m using all of my wider family that I support technically as an example could not make such a decision. Sure they could click somewhere like they clicked ignore cert or enhance your computer multiple times which lead to tons of work on my side. This is why I’d like only informed users to make that change and let the ISP or network admin running DNS enhance their security by pointing them to DoH server. > Be it a global CDN provider or my own cloud instance. Well if you run your own DNS instance you soon find out that your Web performance especially video is bad, when you are not near your DNS server, as none of the big CDN companies will look at the client subnet extension you send. > Any other way, with the ISP or my local network admins telling me what > server to use, is a major setback in my view. > > All forms of opportunistic DoH will make it no better than > opportunistic DoT, which ultimately will fail to protect my privacy. Well you can protect your privacy today by manually changing you DNS/DoH provider already. So the use case described in here is not for you, but instead for those that can not make these informed changes. So long -Ralf —-- Ralf Weber
- [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-hoffm… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Jim Reid
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ralf Weber
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… A. Schulze
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Jim Reid
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… A. Schulze
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ralf Weber
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Request for the DOH WG to adopt d… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: Request for the DOH WG t… Winfield, Alister
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: Request for the DOH WG t… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Request for the DOH WG to adopt d… John Dickinson
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] Request for the DO… Winfield, Alister
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] Request for the DO… Jim Reid
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] Request for the DO… Winfield, Alister
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Request for the DOH WG to adopt d… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Request for the DOH WG to adopt d… John Dickinson
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ralf Weber
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Tony Finch
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… bert hubert
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… bert hubert
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: Request for the DOH WG t… Winfield, Alister
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… John Dickinson
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Re: Request for the DOH WG to ado… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Re: Request for the DOH WG to ado… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… nigel.tedeschi