Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-hoffman-resolver-associated-doh
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Subject: Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-hoffman-resolver-associated-doh
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On 1/23/19 12:25 AM, Daniel Stenberg wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2019, Paul Hoffman wrote: > >> So, does this WG want to adopt this as a work item? > > Disclaimer: I used to work for a browser company but I no longer do. I > never spoke for them anyway. > > For me, one of the key elements and features with DoH is that I as a > user have picked a DNS provider I decide to trust. You are in a small minority. :-) Very few users will ever change their settings. > Be it a global CDN > provider or my own cloud instance. Any other way, with the ISP or my > local network admins telling me what server to use, is a major setback > in my view. The local network admins in your enterprise might want to have more control, which seems OK to me because, depending on your company's policies, they might own or have effective control over your device (however, your user agent might want to override the suggestions it receives). > All forms of opportunistic DoH will make it no better than opportunistic > DoT, which ultimately will fail to protect my privacy. > > At the same time I of course appreciate that there's a problem/challenge > here with figuring out what DoH server to use and how to even find out > that there is one offered. If I don't know any servers, getting one or a > few suggestions might help. For this, this spec offers ways and I'm for > the working group adopting this. +1 to adoption. Peter
- [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-hoffm… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Jim Reid
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ralf Weber
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… A. Schulze
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Jim Reid
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… A. Schulze
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ralf Weber
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Request for the DOH WG to adopt d… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: Request for the DOH WG t… Winfield, Alister
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: Request for the DOH WG t… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Request for the DOH WG to adopt d… John Dickinson
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] Request for the DO… Winfield, Alister
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] Request for the DO… Jim Reid
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] Request for the DO… Winfield, Alister
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Request for the DOH WG to adopt d… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Request for the DOH WG to adopt d… John Dickinson
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ralf Weber
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Tony Finch
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… bert hubert
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… bert hubert
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: Request for the DOH WG t… Winfield, Alister
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… John Dickinson
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Re: Request for the DOH WG to ado… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Re: Request for the DOH WG to ado… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… nigel.tedeschi