Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-hoffman-resolver-associated-doh
Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Wed, 23 January 2019 18:52 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-hoffman-resolver-associated-doh
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Okay, but for that use case, why not DoT rather than DoH? What's the advantage of DoH in this use case? On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 9:39 AM Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola= 40open-xchange.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > Il 23 gennaio 2019 alle 8.25 Daniel Stenberg <daniel@haxx.se> ha > scritto: > > > > For me, one of the key elements and features with DoH is that I as a > user have > > picked a DNS provider I decide to trust. Be it a global CDN provider or > my own > > cloud instance. Any other way, with the ISP or my local network admins > telling > > me what server to use, is a major setback in my view. > > This could be true for you and me, but average users have no idea of what > the DNS is - they only make one choice, they pick an *ISP* that they decide > to trust. They pay to get "Internet access" from that company and expect > that company to provide all it takes for "the Internet to work", including > DNS resolution, without them having to do anything; this has been the > default situation for the last 20 years at least. > > So it's fine if smarter users make changes to this default and pick a DNS > provider different from their connectivity provider, and it's fine to > empower them to do so, but it's not fine to break the way the Internet > normally works for most people, which includes an automated and effortless > mechanism to get the DNS resolution service from the ISP when connecting to > the network. > > Regards, > -- > > Vittorio Bertola | Head of Policy & Innovation, Open-Xchange > vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com > Office @ Via Treviso 12, 10144 Torino, Italy > > _______________________________________________ > Doh mailing list > Doh@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/doh >
- [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-hoffm… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Jim Reid
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ralf Weber
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… A. Schulze
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Jim Reid
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… A. Schulze
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ralf Weber
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Request for the DOH WG to adopt d… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: Request for the DOH WG t… Winfield, Alister
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: Request for the DOH WG t… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Request for the DOH WG to adopt d… John Dickinson
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] Request for the DO… Winfield, Alister
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] Request for the DO… Jim Reid
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] Request for the DO… Winfield, Alister
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Request for the DOH WG to adopt d… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Request for the DOH WG to adopt d… John Dickinson
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ralf Weber
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Tony Finch
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… bert hubert
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… bert hubert
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [Doh] [EXTERNAL] Re: Request for the DOH WG t… Winfield, Alister
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… John Dickinson
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Re: Request for the DOH WG to ado… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] [Ext] Re: Request for the DOH WG to ado… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [Doh] Request for the DOH WG to adopt draft-h… nigel.tedeschi