Re: [Doh] New: draft-livingood-doh-implementation-risks-issues

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Sun, 10 March 2019 11:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Doh] New: draft-livingood-doh-implementation-risks-issues
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Hi Stephen,

I think this is a great discussion to have.  Both drafts are provocative and, at least to me, important.  I don’t agree with everything in them, but I especially like how draft-livingood is organised, because one can essentially break out each paragraph into its own exploration to determine if one agrees or not, both in terms of issues raised and recommendations.

Is this a DoH thing?  I guess that boils down to whether the IETF views its standards as enabling technology.  In as much as we do, then we should discuss the ramifications of our decisions, especially if someone sees architectural risks.  Two examples of how this broadens out:
Centralization/concentration isn’t limited to DoH but DoH could well act as a catalyst.  it depends if the mechanism is benefiting from non-preexisting relationships.
Trust and accountability, as relates to a service. This is a whopper of a topic, but clearly worthy of exploration.  Anyone who thinks this is a simple topic is fooling themselves.
I’d be up for a side meeting on all of this in Prague if others are interested.

Eliot