Re: [domainrep] WGLC: draft-ietf-repute-email-identifiers-04

"Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> Wed, 14 November 2012 11:57 UTC

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From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>
To: Dave Crocker <dcrocker@gmail.com>, "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>, Chris Lewis <clewis+ietf@mustelids.ca>
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Same here.

Scott

> -----Original Message-----
> From: domainrep-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:domainrep-bounces@ietf.org] On
> Behalf Of Dave Crocker
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 1:37 AM
> To: Murray S. Kucherawy; Chris Lewis
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> Subject: Re: [domainrep] WGLC: draft-ietf-repute-email-identifiers-04
> 
> Wfm.
> 
> 
> d/
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> Dave Crocker
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> via mobile
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
> To: Chris Lewis <clewis+ietf@mustelids.ca>
> Cc: "domainrep@ietf.org" <domainrep@ietf.org>
> Sent: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [domainrep] WGLC: draft-ietf-repute-email-identifiers-04
> 
> I typed several messages arguing that we shouldn't do this, and then
> talked myself out of sending each of them.  I think that means it's a
> reasonable suggestion.
> 
> I do think it's useful to include threatening conduct as an example
> though, so how about compromise text:
> 
> ABUSIVE: The subject identifier is associated with sending or handling
> email of a personally abusive, threatening, or otherwise harassing
> nature.
> 
> ?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Chris Lewis
> <clewis+ietf@mustelids.ca>wrote:
> 
> > On 12-11-13 08:44 PM, Dave Crocker wrote:
> > > Perhaps 'personally abusive'?  Some problematic mail is not exactly
> > threatening.  E.g, sending lots of mail to you that criticizes
> > everything you post or constantly calls you an asshole.
> >
> > Better I think:
> >
> > ABUSIVE: The subject identifier is associated with sending or
> handling
> > email of a personally abusive or otherwise harassing nature.
> >
> > [The stereo-typical "love-sick stalker"'s emails aren't strictly
> > definable as "abusive" per-se in the sense of your phrase.
> Harassment
> > most certainly.  I don't think "Harassive" is a word, and the spell
> > checker seems to agree ;-)]
> >
> > I don't think you'd see that flag very often.  But for
> completeness...
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