Re: [Dots] Opsdir early review of draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-10

mohamed.boucadair@orange.com Mon, 27 July 2020 08:42 UTC

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From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
To: Nagendra Nainar <naikumar@cisco.com>, "ops-dir@ietf.org" <ops-dir@ietf.org>
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Hi Nagendra, all, 

FWIW, the proposed changes are now implemented in -11: 

URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-11.txt 
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dots-telemetry/ 
Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-11 
Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dots-telemetry 
Diff:           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-11

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
> [mailto:mohamed.boucadair@orange.com]
> Envoyé : lundi 20 juillet 2020 09:00
> À : Nagendra Nainar <naikumar@cisco.com>; ops-dir@ietf.org
> Cc : dots@ietf.org; draft-ietf-dots-telemetry.all@ietf.org
> Objet : RE: Opsdir early review of draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-10
> 
> Hi Nagendra,
> 
> Thank you for the review.
> 
> Please see inline.
> 
> Cheers,
> Med
> 
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Nagendra Nainar via Datatracker [mailto:noreply@ietf.org]
> Envoyé
> > : vendredi 17 juillet 2020 18:52 À : ops-dir@ietf.org Cc :
> > dots@ietf.org; draft-ietf-dots-telemetry.all@ietf.org
> > Objet : Opsdir early review of draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-10
> >
> > Reviewer: Nagendra Nainar
> > Review result: Has Nits
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have reviewed this document as part of the Operational
> directorate's
> > ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the
> > IESG.  These comments were written with the intent of improving the
> > operational aspects of the IETF drafts per guidelines in RFC5706.
> >
> > Comments that are not addressed in last call may be included in AD
> > reviews during the IESG review.  Document editors and WG chairs
> should
> > treat these comments just like any other last call comments.
> >
> > Overall Summary:
> >
> > This draft is a standard track proposing telemetry attributes for
> DOTS
> > signal channel (RFC8782) that can be exchanged between DOTS client
> and
> > server. The draft clarifies that these attributes are not mandatory.
> > As these telemetry attributes are extensions of the existing DOTS
> > signal channel and it already clarifies that they are not mandatory,
> > this draft does not introduce any backward compatibility issues.
> >
> > The draft also proposes high level error handling mechanism for the
> > telemetry attributes defined in this document.
> >
> > Overall this is a well written document. Some ambiguity observed
> that
> > needs attention are listed below:
> >
> > --> The below reference seems to be wrong. RFC7252 is COAP and not
> > CBOR.
> > --> I
> > think it should be RFC7049.
> >
> 
> [Med] I confirm. Fixed.
> 
> > "Telemetry messages exchanged between DOTS agents are serialized
> using
> >    Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR) [RFC7252]"
> >
> > --> An early reference to RFC7950 may be useful in Section 4.5.
> 
> [Med] OK.
> 
> >
> > --> tsid seems to be a terminology introduced in this draft. It
> > will be
> > --> good to
> > add this in the terminology section. Same for tmid.
> 
> [Med] No problem. This will be added.
> 
> >
> > --> Section 6.1.2 states that a PUT request with link capacity set
> > to 0
> > --> to
> > delete a link when the other link is active. What happens if a PUT
> > request is sent with all the links set to a capacity of 0?. Will it
> be
> > treated as error or as "DELETE"?.
> 
> [Med] This falls under this behavior in 6.1.2:
> 
>    o  If the request is missing a mandatory attribute, does not
> include
>       'cuid' or 'tsid' Uri-Path parameters, or contains one or more
>       invalid or unknown parameters, 4.00 (Bad Request) MUST be
> returned
>       in the response.
> 
> I added this note to make it explicit:
> 
> "Note that if the DOTS server receives a PUT request with a 'capacity'
> attribute set to "0" for all included links, it MUST reject the
> request with a 4.00 (Bad Request)."
> 
> >
> > --> The DMS mentioned below can be expanded or included in the
> > --> terminology
> > section. I cant find it in RFC8287 as well.
> 
> [Med] I expanded the acronym to DDoS Mitigation System, but removed
> "DMS" as it is not used in other parts of the text.
> 
> >
> > The 'total-attack-traffic' attribute (Figure 27) conveys the total
> >    attack traffic identified by the DOTS client domain's DMS (or
> DDoS
> >
> > --> I understand that Pre-or-Ongoing-Mitigation attribute can be
> > --> signaled by
> > DOTS client or Server. Can this be used to report an ongoing attack
> to
> > the server?
> 
> [Med] Yes, clients can send telemetry to the servers.
> 
> . If so, what should be the value set in the
> > end-time field?.
> 
> [Med] This attribute will be used if the attack was mitigated. The
> client will set it to the time when the attack traffic is not seen
> anymore in the DOTS domain client.
> 
> >
> > --> I am skipping the YANG module as I noticed that YANGDOCTOR
> > review is
> > already done.
> >
> > Few nits:
> >
> > s/If no target clause in included in the request/If no target clause
> > is included in the request
> >
> >
> [Med] Thank you for catching this. Fixed.
> 
> 
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