Re: [Dots] Are we being too restrictive in the Alias definition requirements?

"Jon Shallow" <supjps-ietf@jpshallow.com> Thu, 20 September 2018 08:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Dots] Are we being too restrictive in the Alias definition requirements?
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Hi Med,

 

Not a problem, I just needed to ask the question.

 

Regards

 

Jon

 

From: Dots [mailto: dots-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
Sent: 20 September 2018 08:49
To: Jon Shallow; dots@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Dots] Are we being too restrictive in the Alias definition
requirements?

 

Hi Jon, 

 

Please remind that aliases are meant to identify resources.  A single port
number does not identify a resource; the combination of an ip address/fqdn
and ports does. 

 

If you want to include only an port number or a protocol, you can create an
alias which will set the target-prefix to all prefixes of the domain. 

 

I don’t see the need to modify the current text. Thanks.

 

Cheers,

Med

 

De : Dots [mailto:dots-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Jon Shallow
Envoyé : jeudi 20 septembre 2018 09:36
À : dots@ietf.org
Objet : [Dots] Are we being too restrictive in the Alias definition
requirements?

 

Hi there,

 

Signal Draft 4.4.1.  Request Mitigation

 

   In the PUT request at least one of the attributes 'target-prefix',

   'target-fqdn', 'target-uri', or 'alias-name' MUST be present.

 

Data Draft 6.1.  Create Aliases

 

   In POST or PUT requests, at least one of the 'target-prefix',

   'target-fqdn', or 'target-uri' attributes MUST be present.  DOTS

   agents can safely ignore Vendor-Specific parameters they don't

   understand.

 

So, it is not possible to have an Alias template that contains just ports or
protocols that can be used in a mitigation request that does include the
'target-prefix', 'target-fqdn', or 'target-uri' attributes.  Is this too
restrictive?

 

Possible updates

 

Signal Draft 4.4.1.  Request Mitigation

 

NEW:

   In the PUT request at least one of the attributes 'target-prefix',

   'target-fqdn', 'target-uri', or 'alias-name' where the alias contains at
least one of the attributes 'target-prefix', 'target-fqdn', 'target-uri',
MUST be present.

 

Data Draft 6.1.  Create Aliases

 

NEW:

   In POST or PUT requests, at least one of the 'target-',

   attributes MUST be present.  DOTS

   agents can safely ignore Vendor-Specific parameters they don't

   understand.

 

 

Regards

 

Jon