Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discovery-05

<mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> Thu, 07 November 2019 14:37 UTC

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To: Valery Smyslov <valery@smyslov.net>, "dots@ietf.org" <dots@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discovery-05
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Re-,

I confirm. Thank you for looking into this.

I will proceed with the change unless there is objection. 

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Valery Smyslov [mailto:valery@smyslov.net]
> Envoyé : jeudi 7 novembre 2019 15:27
> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed TGI/OLN; dots@ietf.org
> Cc : dots-chairs@ietf.org
> Objet : RE: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discovery-05
> 
> Hi Med,
> 
> if you think that readers of this document are not required to read and
> understand
> signal-channel in order to implement this spec, then it's perfectly OK to
> make it Informative.
> 
> Regards,
> Valery.
> 
> 
> > Thank you, Valery.
> >
> > As per the text you quoted, it should be put it its context:
> >
> >    The design allows to terminate the base DOTS channels and DOTS Call
> >    Home on the same or distinct peer DOTS agents.  If distinct peer DOTS
> >    agents are deployed, the DHCP option can return, for example, a list
> >                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >    of IP addresses to a requesting DOTS agent.  This list includes the
> >    IP address to be used for the base DOTS channels and the IP address
> >    for the DOTS Call Home.  The DOTS client (or the Call Home DOTS
> >    server) will then use the address selection specified in Section 4.3
> >    of [I-D.ietf-dots-signal-channel] to identify the IP address of the
> >    peer DOTS server (or Call Home Client).
> >
> > It does only exemplify what an agent may do. The text you quoted does not
> use any normative language.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Med
> >
> > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > De : Valery Smyslov [mailto:valery@smyslov.net]
> > > Envoyé : jeudi 7 novembre 2019 14:15
> > > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed TGI/OLN; dots@ietf.org
> > > Cc : dots-chairs@ietf.org
> > > Objet : RE: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discovery-05
> > >
> > > Hi Med,
> > >
> > > this makes sense for signal-call-home, but why signal-channel?
> > > You currently directly reference it:
> > >
> > >    The DOTS client (or the Call Home DOTS
> > >    server) will then use the address selection specified in Section 4.3
> > >    of [I-D.ietf-dots-signal-channel] to identify the IP address of the
> > >    peer DOTS server (or Call Home Client).
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Valery.
> > >
> > > > Hi Valery, all,
> > > >
> > > > Is there any objection if we move I-D.ietf-dots-signal-call-home and
> I-
> > > D.ietf-dots-signal-channel to be
> > > > informative references.
> > > >
> > > > We have listed I-D.ietf-dots-signal-channel as normative because we
> have
> > > this text in Section 8:
> > > >
> > > > "DOTS agents must
> > > >    authenticate each other using (D)TLS before a DOTS session is
> > > >    considered valid according to the [I-D.ietf-dots-signal-channel]."
> > > >
> > > > But I'm afraid this is not appropriate given that the above is not a
> NEW
> > > requirement but a reminder of the
> > > > behavior in I-D.ietf-dots-signal-channel. We may call out this better
> by
> > > using this text:
> > > >
> > > > NEW:
> > > >   As a reminder, DOTS agents must
> > > >    authenticate each other using (D)TLS before a DOTS session is
> > > >    considered valid according to the [I-D.ietf-dots-signal-channel].
> > > >
> > > > Any objections?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Med
> > > >
> > > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > > De : Dots [mailto:dots-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Valery
> Smyslov
> > > > > Envoyé : mercredi 23 octobre 2019 09:37
> > > > > À : dots@ietf.org
> > > > > Cc : dots-chairs@ietf.org
> > > > > Objet : [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discovery-05
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > this message starts a Work Group Last Call (WGLC) for draft-ietf-
> dots-
> > > > > server-discovery-05.
> > > > > The version to be reviewed is here: https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-
> ietf-
> > > > > dots-server-discovery-05.txt
> > > > >
> > > > > The WGLC will last for two weeks and will end on November the 7th.
> > > > > Please send your comments to the list before this date.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Frank & Valery.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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