Re: [Dots] Mirja's DISCUSS: Pending Point (AD Help Needed)

<mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> Wed, 24 July 2019 16:09 UTC

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To: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
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Thread-Topic: [Dots] Mirja's DISCUSS: Pending Point (AD Help Needed)
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Subject: Re: [Dots] Mirja's DISCUSS: Pending Point (AD Help Needed)
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Re-,

I don't think so. 

There is already some "generic" text in RFC8323 (CoAP/TCP): 

      "According to
      [HomeGateway], the mean for TCP and UDP NAT binding timeouts is
      386 minutes (TCP) and 160 seconds (UDP).  Shorter timeout values
      require keepalive messages to be sent more frequently.  Hence, the
      use of CoAP over TCP requires less-frequent transmission of
      keepalive messages."

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Benjamin Kaduk [mailto:kaduk@mit.edu]
> Envoyé : mercredi 24 juillet 2019 16:01
> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed TGI/OLN
> Cc : Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy; Valery Smyslov; dots-chairs@ietf.org;
> dots@ietf.org
> Objet : Re: [Dots] Mirja's DISCUSS: Pending Point (AD Help Needed)
> 
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 01:49:40PM +0000, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
> wrote:
> > Hi Ben,
> >
> > IMO, this falls under this text:
> >
> >       A heartbeat-interval of 30 seconds may be considered as too chatty
> >       in some deployments.  For such deployments, DOTS agents may
> >       negotiate longer heartbeat-interval values to prevent any network
> >       overload with too frequent keepalives.
> >
> > Isn't it?
> 
> I think the document is quite clear that there are cases where 30 seconds
> doesn't make sense.  My question is whether we want to be very explicit
> about linking the "TCP is used" case as being one such case where 30
> seconds doesn't make sense.  "No" is a fine answer, but I just wanted to
> ask.
> 
> -Ben