Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discovery-05
"Jon Shallow" <supjps-ietf@jpshallow.com> Thu, 07 November 2019 08:48 UTC
Return-Path: <supjps-ietf@jpshallow.com>
X-Original-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D15012088C;
Thu, 7 Nov 2019 00:48:26 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.899
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5
tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001,
URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44])
by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
with ESMTP id OPyniMUGMXQS; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 00:48:23 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail.jpshallow.com (mail.jpshallow.com [217.40.240.153])
(using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits))
(No client certificate requested)
by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FA4D12087C;
Thu, 7 Nov 2019 00:48:22 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail2.jpshallow.com ([192.168.0.3] helo=N01332)
by mail.jpshallow.com with esmtp (Exim 4.92.3)
(envelope-from <jon.shallow@jpshallow.com>)
id 1iSdSl-0000x6-Ek; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 08:48:19 +0000
From: "Jon Shallow" <supjps-ietf@jpshallow.com>
To: <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>, <dots-chairs@ietf.org>, <dots@ietf.org>,
"'Valery Smyslov'" <valery@smyslov.net>
References: <011d01d58974$b70298b0$2507ca10$@smyslov.net>
<1bb901d594b2$b4502b20$1cf08160$@jpshallow.com>
<787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B933031350F27@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup>
<1bf401d594be$6b379700$41a6c500$@jpshallow.com>
<787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B933031358608@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup>
In-Reply-To: <787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B933031358608@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup>
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 08:48:14 -0000
Message-ID: <1ca201d59548$17acc440$47064cc0$@jpshallow.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0
Thread-Index: AQG7u70viJ1zeDaA3CAo0XFND0KMCQHB1wXNATZXnJIBTI+/hwF5oOeRp4UlO2A=
Content-Language: en-gb
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dots/OgaXQ_MvOX3adIr6DOHzUTwuV8s>
Subject: Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discovery-05
X-BeenThere: dots@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: "List for discussion of DDoS Open Threat Signaling \(DOTS\)
technology and directions." <dots.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dots>,
<mailto:dots-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dots/>
List-Post: <mailto:dots@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dots-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots>,
<mailto:dots-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 08:48:27 -0000
Hi Med, That suggestion works for me - thanks. No need to reference HE. Regards Jon > -----Original Message----- > From: Dots [mailto: dots-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of mohamed.boucadair@orange.com > Sent: 07 November 2019 06:49 > To: Jon Shallow; 'Valery Smyslov'; dots@ietf.org; dots-chairs@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discovery-05 > > Hi Jon, > > OK, thanks. > > In order to further make things clear, I suggest to add this NEW text in the > introduction of Section 5: > > The list of the IP addresses returned by DHCP servers is typically > used to fed the DOTS server selection procedure detailed in > Section 4.3 of [I-D.ietf-dots-signal-channel] or to provide DOTS > agents with primary and backup IP addresses of their peer DOTS > agents. > > Would that be OK? > > I'm not sure the text need to hint any priority order set by the server > (backup case), though. The reason is that list will be ordered by the client > following HE. > > Cheers, > Med > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : Jon Shallow [mailto:supjps-ietf@jpshallow.com] > > Envoyé : mercredi 6 novembre 2019 17:23 > > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed TGI/OLN; 'Valery Smyslov'; dots@ietf.org; dots- > > chairs@ietf.org > > Objet : RE: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discovery-05 > > > > Hi Med, > > > > Sorry - not thinking straight - yes, you are correct in that a single > > OPTION_Vx_DOTS_ADDRESS can contain multiple IP addresses - must have > glazed > > over the specific definition before hitting the "it MUST only use the first > > instance" in the next section (Client Behavior). > > > > Regards > > > > Jon > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dots [mailto: dots-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > > mohamed.boucadair@orange.com > > > Sent: 06 November 2019 15:52 > > > To: Jon Shallow; 'Valery Smyslov'; dots@ietf.org; dots-chairs@ietf.org > > > Subject: Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discovery-05 > > > > > > Hi Jon, > > > > > > Thank you for the comments. > > > > > > Please see inline. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Med > > > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > > > De : Dots [mailto:dots-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Jon Shallow > > > > Envoyé : mercredi 6 novembre 2019 15:59 > > > > À : 'Valery Smyslov'; dots@ietf.org; dots-chairs@ietf.org > > > > Objet : Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discovery-05 > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > I have read through draft-ietf-dots-server-discovery-05 and think that > > it > > > > is > > > > a good document. > > > > > > > > However, in particular with DHCPv(4|6), it is only possible to use the > > > > first > > > > OPTION_Vx_DOTS_ADDRESS (5.1.3, 5.2.3). > > > > > > [Med] Yes > > > > > > If the server at the first address > > > > is down / unavailable for whatever reason, it is not possible to define > > a > > > > backup IP address as a secondary entry. Is it the intention to not > > allow > > > > backup IP addresses? > > > > > > [Med] Hmm, that is possible given that an instance is designed to carry a > > list > > > of IP addresses. > > > > > > If the DHCP client receives OPTION_V6_DOTS_ADDRESS only, the > > > address(es) included in OPTION_V6_DOTS_ADDRESS are used to reach > the > > > ^^^^^^^^^^ > > > peer DOTS agent. In addition, these addresses can be used as > > > identifiers for authentication. > > > > > > > > > > > With DNS, I know that A/AAAA records can be presented round-robin > > > which > > > > gives the possibility of backup IP addresses, but am not sure whether > > this > > > > holds true for implementations for other Resource Records. If backup > > > > addresses are to be allowed, the draft is unclear whether only the > > first > > > > A/AAAA RR is allowed, or each can be tested until the first non-failure > > is > > > > found, or whether happy-eyeballs it to be invoked against all of the IP > > > > addresses and then the final IP preferentially chosen according to the > > RR > > > > returned order. > > > > > > [Med] Considerations related to address selection (including HE) are not > > > detailed here on purpose because this is not part of discovery. > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Jon > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Dots [mailto:ietf-supjps-dots-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > > > Valery > > > > > Smyslov > > > > > Sent: 23 October 2019 08:37 > > > > > To: dots@ietf.org > > > > > Cc: dots-chairs@ietf.org > > > > > Subject: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discovery-05 > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > this message starts a Work Group Last Call (WGLC) for > > > > draft-ietf-dots-server- > > > > > discovery-05. > > > > > The version to be reviewed is here: > > > > https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-dots- > > > > > server-discovery-05.txt > > > > > > > > > > The WGLC will last for two weeks and will end on November the 7th. > > > > > Please send your comments to the list before this date. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Frank & Valery. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Dots mailing list > > > > > Dots@ietf.org > > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Dots mailing list > > > > Dots@ietf.org > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Dots mailing list > > > Dots@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots > > _______________________________________________ > Dots mailing list > Dots@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots
- [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discovery-05 Valery Smyslov
- Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discove… Jon Shallow
- Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discove… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discove… Jon Shallow
- Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discove… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discove… Jon Shallow
- Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discove… Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy
- Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discove… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discove… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discove… Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy
- Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discove… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discove… Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy
- Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discove… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discove… Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy
- Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discove… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discove… Valery Smyslov
- Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discove… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discove… Valery Smyslov
- Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discove… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discove… Valery Smyslov
- Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discove… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Dots] WGLC on draft-ietf-dots-server-discove… Valery Smyslov