Re: [Dots] 答复: merging requirements and use cases drafts?

Daniel Migault <daniel.migault@ericsson.com> Mon, 20 March 2017 02:04 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Dots] 答复: merging requirements and use cases drafts?
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Hi,
I also see value in having two different documents.
Yours
Daniel

On Mar 19, 2017 21:33, "Xialiang (Frank)" <frank.xialiang@huawei.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> I see these two drafts have their respective values, and prefer to keeping
> them separate.
>
> Thanks!
>
> B.R.
> Frank
>
> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: Dots [mailto:dots-bounces@ietf.org] 代表 Flemming Andreasen
> 发送时间: 2017年3月17日 22:01
> 收件人: Roman Danyliw; dots@ietf.org
> 主题: Re: [Dots] merging requirements and use cases drafts?
>
> I think both are valuable and prefer keeping them separate.
>
> -- Flemming
>
> On 3/16/17 4:47 PM, Roman Danyliw wrote:
> > Hello all!
> >
> > Any additional opinions on how to handle the WG requirements and use
> case drafts?
> >
> > Roman
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Dots [mailto:dots-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ehud Doron
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:14 AM
> >> To: Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy) <tireddy@cisco.com>;
> >> mohamed.boucadair@orange.com; Mortensen, Andrew
> >> <amortensen@arbor.net>; dots@ietf.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Dots] merging requirements and use cases drafts?
> >>
> >> All
> >>
> >> +1 on that, I prefer to keep them separate.
> >>
> >> Thanks, Ehud
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Dots [mailto:dots-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tirumaleswar
> >> Reddy (tireddy)
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:08 AM
> >> To: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com; Mortensen, Andrew
> >> <amortensen@arbor.net>; dots@ietf.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Dots] merging requirements and use cases drafts?
> >>
> >> I prefer to keep them separate.
> >>
> >> -Tiru
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Dots [mailto:dots-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> >>> mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:37 PM
> >>> To: Mortensen, Andrew <amortensen@arbor.net>; dots@ietf.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [Dots] merging requirements and use cases drafts?
> >>>
> >>> Hi Andrew, all,
> >>>
> >>> I have an alternate proposal:
> >>> * Maintain the requirements draft with its initial scope.
> >>> * Abandon the use cases draft.
> >>>
> >>> I don't see much value in publishing the use case I-D as an RFC. The
> >>> requirements I-D is really important as it sketches the scope and
> >>> required DOTS functionalities.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Med
> >>>
> >>>> -----Message d'origine-----
> >>>> De : Dots [mailto:dots-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Mortensen,
> >>>> Andrew Envoyé : lundi 27 février 2017 19:43 À : dots@ietf.org Objet :
> >>>> [Dots] merging requirements and use cases drafts?
> >>>>
> >>>> During the interim meeting, Kathleen Moriarty observed that it
> >>>> might be beneficial to merge the requirements and use cases drafts,
> >>>> since the IESG tends to look more favorably on such drafts.
> >>>>
> >>>> We did not continue that discussion during the interim meeting, due
> >>>> to limited time, but I think it’s something we need to discuss
> >>>> ahead of the meeting in Chicago. To begin with, I’d like to hear a
> >>>> little more from Kathleen about why a merged draft is likely to be
> >>>> more palatable to the IESG. If nothing else, it’d be nice to avoid
> >>>> coming to the topic cold in Chicago.
> >>>>
> >>>> andrew
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