Re: [Dots] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-06.txt

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Hi Meiling,

Thank you for the review.

Please see inline.

Cheers,
Med

De : Meiling Chen [mailto:chenmeiling@chinamobile.com]
Envoyé : lundi 13 avril 2020 01:33
À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed TGI/OLN; dots
Objet : Re: Re: [Dots] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-06.txt

Hi all,
I have reviewed this draft,  and I have some questions:
1. section 7 contains pre-or-ongoing mitigation telemetry, why not the telemetry after the end of mitigation.
[Med] This is possible, e.g., with a status update (Section 8.1) with "status": "attack-successfully-mitigated".

2.Telemetry put request sent after a mitigation request, is that means telemetry request and mitigation request will not be in one packet?
[Med] Yes. This is why we discuss how to bind the requests:

   DOTS agents SHOULD bind pre-or-ongoing-mitigation telemetry data with
   mitigation requests relying upon the target clause.  In particular, a
   telemetry PUT request sent after a mitigation request may include a
   reference to that mitigation request ('mid-list') as shown in
   Figure 22.  An example illustrating requests correlation by means of
   'target-prefix' is shown in Figure 23.

3."attack-severity" has three options, how to determine which level the attack is?
[Med] This is implementation-specific.

4.For "top-talkers", is it necessary to specify the quantity?
[Med] Yuhei already clarified this one.

From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com<mailto:mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
Date: 2020-04-07 16:03
To: dots@ietf.org<mailto:dots@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Dots] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-06.txt
Hi all,

The main changes in this version are as follows:
* add a reminder that cuid/cdid must not appear in the message body
* add a reminder about the use of YANG
* add a clarification about refresh of telemetry configuration
* Restructure the model to fix a problem raised by Jon about access to max/min data when no tsid is in place.
* Define unit-type
* attack details are not modeled as an array
* add new containers ton convey protocol- and port-specific telemetry data.
* add a clarification about partial requests
* add a clarification about the usage of per protocol and per-port metrics.
* telemetry data can now be filtered using Uri-Query options
* add a note about handling baseline to accommodate non-attack overloads
* describe how to delete "tmids'
* update the cbor/mapping tables.

The point about long responses is still PENDING.

Please review and share your comments.

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : I-D-Announce [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de
> internet-drafts@ietf.org
> Envoyé : mardi 7 avril 2020 09:53
> à : i-d-announce@ietf.org
> Cc : dots@ietf.org
> Objet : I-D Action: draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-06.txt
>
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
> This draft is a work item of the DDoS Open Threat Signaling WG of the
> IETF.
>
>         Title           : Distributed Denial-of-Service Open Threat
> Signaling (DOTS) Telemetry
>         Authors         : Mohamed Boucadair
>                           Tirumaleswar Reddy
>                           Ehud Doron
>                           Meiling Chen
> Filename        : draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-06.txt
> Pages           : 93
> Date            : 2020-04-07
>
> Abstract:
>    This document aims to enrich DOTS signal channel protocol with
>    various telemetry attributes allowing optimal DDoS attack
> mitigation.
>    It specifies the normal traffic baseline and attack traffic
> telemetry
>    attributes a DOTS client can convey to its DOTS server in the
>    mitigation request, the mitigation status telemetry attributes a
> DOTS
>    server can communicate to a DOTS client, and the mitigation
> efficacy
>    telemetry attributes a DOTS client can communicate to a DOTS
> server.
>    The telemetry attributes can assist the mitigator to choose the
> DDoS
>    mitigation techniques and perform optimal DDoS attack mitigation.
>
>
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