Re: [Dots] WGLC for draft-dots-use-cases-19

Töma Gavrichenkov <ximaera@gmail.com> Tue, 06 August 2019 08:20 UTC

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From: Töma Gavrichenkov <ximaera@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2019 11:19:47 +0300
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Subject: Re: [Dots] WGLC for draft-dots-use-cases-19
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On Tue, Aug 6, 2019, 11:15 AM Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy <
TirumaleswarReddy_Konda@mcafee.com> wrote:

> The adverse impact is legitimate users whose IP addresses were spoofed
> cannot access the services of the target server.
>

This must never never happen in production systems.  You do not block an IP
address if you haven't verified that it's not spoofed.  DOTS has nothing to
do with this.

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Töma

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