Re: [Dots] AD review of draft-ietf-dots-signal-channel-25 (1st Part)
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From: "Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy" <TirumaleswarReddy_Konda@McAfee.com>
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Subject: Re: [Dots] AD review of draft-ietf-dots-signal-channel-25 (1st Part)
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> -----Original Message----- > From: Dots <dots-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of > mohamed.boucadair@orange.com > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 1:16 PM > To: Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy <TirumaleswarReddy_Konda@McAfee.com>; > Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>; draft-ietf-dots-signal-channel@ietf.org > Cc: dots@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Dots] AD review of draft-ietf-dots-signal-channel-25 (1st Part) > > This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or > open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is > safe. > > Re-, > > OK. > > Given that we don't have an explicit mention about this in 8305, I added this > NEW sentence echoing what was in 6555: > > Note that the DOTS client must cache information regarding the > outcome of each connection attempt, and it uses that information to > avoid thrashing the network with subsequent attempts. Minor change: Note that the DOTS client must cache information regarding the outcome of each connection attempt for a specific time period (e.g. 10 minutes), and it uses that information to avoid thrashing the network with subsequent attempts. -Tiru > > Cheers, > Med > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy > > [mailto:TirumaleswarReddy_Konda@McAfee.com] > > Envoyé : jeudi 17 janvier 2019 08:16 > > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed TGI/OLN; Benjamin Kaduk; draft-ietf-dots-signal- > > channel@ietf.org Cc : dots@ietf.org Objet : RE: AD review of > > draft-ietf-dots-signal-channel-25 (1st Part) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com > > > <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 12:33 PM > > > To: Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy > <TirumaleswarReddy_Konda@McAfee.com>; > > > Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>; > > > draft-ietf-dots-signal-channel@ietf.org > > > Cc: dots@ietf.org > > > Subject: RE: AD review of draft-ietf-dots-signal-channel-25 (1st > > > Part) > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Tiru, > > > > > > As you know RFC8305 obsoletes RFC6555. > > > > > > I fail to see where caching results is mentioned in 8305. Do you? > > > > Though RFC8035 obsoletes RFC6555, it is still compatible with RFC6555 > > (see https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8305#appendix-A) > > It is useful to cache the happy eyeball results for a specific time. > > > > -Tiru > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Med > > > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > > > De : Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy > > > > [mailto:TirumaleswarReddy_Konda@McAfee.com] > > > > Envoyé : mercredi 16 janvier 2019 12:11 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed > > > > TGI/OLN; Benjamin Kaduk; draft-ietf-dots-signal- channel@ietf.org Cc : > > > > dots@ietf.org Objet : RE: AD review of > > > > draft-ietf-dots-signal-channel-25 (1st Part) > > > > > > > > Hi Med, > > > > > > > > Please see inline > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Dots <dots-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of > > > > > mohamed.boucadair@orange.com > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 1:30 PM > > > > > To: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>; draft-ietf-dots-signal- > > > > > channel@ietf.org > > > > > Cc: dots@ietf.org > > > > > Subject: Re: [Dots] AD review of > > > > > draft-ietf-dots-signal-channel-25 (1st > > > > Part) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These connection attempts are > > > > > > performed by the DOTS client when it initializes. The > > > > > > results of > > the > > > > > > Happy Eyeballs procedure are used by the DOTS client for > > > > > > sending > > its > > > > > > subsequent messages to the DOTS server. > > > > > > > > > > > > I see this is scoped to "when the client initializes", so I > > > > > > don't know whether it adds more or not to end with "for the > > > > > > duration of the DOTS session" or some similar scoping for the > > > > > > caching of the happy eyeballs results. > > > > > > > > > > [Med] The connection attempts are performed each time the client > > > > > has to select among a list of v4, v6 (tls, dtls). This is > > > > > particularly true when > > > > the client > > > > > initiates, but this may also be true each time the client has to > > > > > select > > > > among > > > > > v4, v6, DTLS, TLS (e.g., the client attaches to a new network). > > > > > > > > > > I updated the text to: > > > > > > > > > > "These connection attempts are performed by the DOTS client when > > > > > it initializes, or in general when it has to select an address > > > > > family and > > > > transport > > > > > to contact its DOTS server." > > > > > > > > Happy eyeballs mandates caching the results, see > > > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6555#section-4 (to avoid thrashing > > > > the network). > > > > We may want to update the above line accordingly. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > -Tiru > _______________________________________________ > Dots mailing list > Dots@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots
- Re: [Dots] AD review of draft-ietf-dots-signal-ch… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Dots] AD review of draft-ietf-dots-signal-ch… Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy
- Re: [Dots] AD review of draft-ietf-dots-signal-ch… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [Dots] AD review of draft-ietf-dots-signal-ch… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Dots] AD review of draft-ietf-dots-signal-ch… Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy
- Re: [Dots] AD review of draft-ietf-dots-signal-ch… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Dots] AD review of draft-ietf-dots-signal-ch… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Dots] AD review of draft-ietf-dots-signal-ch… Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy
- Re: [Dots] AD review of draft-ietf-dots-signal-ch… Jon Shallow
- Re: [Dots] AD review of draft-ietf-dots-signal-ch… Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy
- Re: [Dots] AD review of draft-ietf-dots-signal-ch… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [Dots] AD review of draft-ietf-dots-signal-ch… Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy