Re: [Dots] Shepherd review of draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases
Valery Smyslov <valery@smyslov.net> Mon, 04 April 2022 07:26 UTC
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From: Valery Smyslov <valery@smyslov.net>
To: 'H Y' <yuuhei.hayashi@gmail.com>
Cc: draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases@ietf.org, 'dots' <dots@ietf.org>, 'dots-chairs' <dots-chairs@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Dots] Shepherd review of draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases
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Hi Yuhei, thank you for updating the document. I've been waiting for the remaining author to provide IPR confirmation. Once I receive it, I'll send the document to IESG. Regards, Valery. > Hi Valery, > > Thank you for your careful review. > > We fixed the nits and posted it as draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases-10. > > >4. Section 3.1.1. > > After that, the orchestrator > > orders the forwarding nodes to redirect as much of the top talker's traffic... > > Shouldn't it be top-talkers' ? > >7. Section 3.1.5. > > s/The forwarding nodes send traffic statistics ... to the orchestrator the using "vendor-id" and "attack-id" > telemetry attributes/ > > The forwarding nodes send traffic statistics ... to the orchestrator by using "vendor-id" and "attack-id" > telemetry attributes > > We found the same nits in draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases-9, so we > fixed them all. > > Thanks, > Yuhei > > 2022年3月31日(木) 22:54 Valery Smyslov <valery@smyslov.net>: > > > > Hi, > > > > I reviewed the document and found some nits (mostly grammar and typos). > > > > 1. Abstract. > > > > The expansion of DOTS is "DDoS Open Threat Signaling". In the abstract it is expanded as "Denial-of-service > Open Threat Signaling". > > > > 2. Figure 1, Figure 3, Figure 5, Figure 7, Figure 16, Figure 18. > > > > All contain the same typo: > > > > s/S is for DOTS client functionality/S is for DOTS server functionality > > > > 3. Section 3.1.1. > > > > IPFIX, BGP, SNMP aren't expanded on first use. > > > > 4. Section 3.1.1. > > > > After that, the orchestrator > > orders the forwarding nodes to redirect as much of the top talker's traffic... > > > > Shouldn't it be top-talkers' ? > > > > 5. Figure 7. > > > > s/BGP Flow spec/BGP Flowspec > > > > 6. Section 3.1.5. > > > > s/It may also necessary/It may also be necessary > > > > 7. Section 3.1.5. > > > > s/The forwarding nodes send traffic statistics ... to the orchestrator the using "vendor-id" and "attack-id" > telemetry attributes/ > > The forwarding nodes send traffic statistics ... to the orchestrator by using "vendor-id" and "attack-id" > telemetry attributes > > > > 8. Section 3.2. > > > > s/Figure 15 provides ... from the orchestrator to the network ./Figure 15 provides ... from the orchestrator > to the network. > > > > 9. Section 3.2. > > > > s/Then, the DDoS mitigation systems reports the status of DDoS countermeasures to the orchestrator > sending "attack-detail" telemetry > > attributes./ > > Then, the DDoS mitigation systems reports the status of DDoS countermeasures to the orchestrator by > sending "attack-detail" > > telemetry attributes. > > > > 10. Section 3.2. > > > > s/After that, the orchestrator integrates the reports ... and send it to a network administrator .../ > > After that, the orchestrator integrates the reports ... and sends them to a network administrator ... > > > > (two places) > > > > 11. Section 3.3.1. > > > > On the other hand, DDoS detection based on the > > DMSes is a more accurate method for detecting attack traffic better > > than flow monitoring. > > > > I have trouble parsing this text. Probably: > > > > On the other hand, DDoS detection based on the > > DMSes is a more accurate method for detecting attack traffic > > than flow monitoring. > > > > 12. Section 3.3.1. > > > > s/The aim of this use case is to increases flow collector's detection .../The aim of this use case is to increase > flow collector's > > detection ... > > > > 13. Section 3.3.1. > > > > s/statisticsto/statistics to > > > > 14. Section 4. > > > > s/a DDoS attacks/DDoS attacks > > > > Regards, > > Valery. > > > > > -- > ---------------------------------- > Yuuhei HAYASHI > 08065300884 > yuuhei.hayashi@gmail.com > iehuuy_0220@docomo.ne.jp > ----------------------------------
- [Dots] Shepherd review of draft-ietf-dots-telemet… Valery Smyslov
- Re: [Dots] Shepherd review of draft-ietf-dots-tel… H Y
- Re: [Dots] Shepherd review of draft-ietf-dots-tel… Valery Smyslov
- [Dots] 答复: Shepherd review of draft-ietf-dots-tel… SuLi
- Re: [Dots] 答复: Shepherd review of draft-ietf-dots… Valery Smyslov
- [Dots] 答复: 答复: Shepherd review of draft-ietf-dots… SuLi