[drinks] Barry Leiba's No Objection on draft-ietf-drinks-spp-protocol-over-soap-07: (with COMMENT)

"Barry Leiba" <barryleiba@computer.org> Wed, 18 February 2015 22:51 UTC

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Subject: [drinks] Barry Leiba's No Objection on draft-ietf-drinks-spp-protocol-over-soap-07: (with COMMENT)
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Barry Leiba has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-drinks-spp-protocol-over-soap-07: No Objection

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-- Section 4 --

   Implementations compliant with this document MUST use HTTP 1.1
   [RFC2616] or higher.  Also, implementations SHOULD use persistent

You could remove "compliant with this document".  But more importantly,
the "SHOULD" is not an interoperability requirement.  I'd rather see
"implementations should use persistent connections for the performance
reasons specified above."  But this is non-blocking, and there's no need
to discuss it.

-- Section 5 --
I support Stephen's DISCUSS here.  Further on what he says in his
comment, this MUST requirement locks you into Digest for all time,
regardless of what other authentication mechanisms might be defined and
deployed later.  That doesn't seem wise.

If the real point here is that there are two mechanisms (Basic and
Digest), and you want to use Digest because you don't want Basic, then
maybe that's how you should say it: ban Basic rather than requiring