Re: [Driu] SRV and HTTP

Leif Hedstrom <leif@ogre.com> Wed, 11 July 2018 16:24 UTC

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From: Leif Hedstrom <leif@ogre.com>
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 10:24:43 -0600
Cc: Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca>, Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com>, DoH WG <doh@ietf.org>, driu@ietf.org, dnsop@ietf.org, HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
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Subject: Re: [Driu] SRV and HTTP
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> On Jul 10, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
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>> On 11 Jul 2018, at 3:55 am, Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca> wrote:
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>> On Jul 10, 2018, at 18:02, Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> wrote:
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>>> In large part because DNS provides "a richer scheme that accommodates address families and multiple addresses with priorities".
>> 
>> *cups hand to ear*
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>> Was that the sound of a distant desire to specify use of SRV for HTTP?
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> 
> I recently did some digging on this topic, and can try to characterise what the issues / objections are.
> 
> Would people be interested in a (hopefully brief) side meeting to discuss and maybe come to a shared understanding of the problem space?


Definitely. We (Traffic Server) added some support for SRV a while back, but it’s mostly a hack.

Cheers,

— Leif