Re: [Driu] [Doh] [DNSOP] SRV and HTTP

I'm in, but will need to catch up on the convo... I'll do so.

BTW, don't look at the Yelp/Foursquare reviews for the social venue... yikes

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 9:32 PM Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:

> I didn't find those, but I found many others.
>
> I'll start collecting. How about Tuesday, say 6:45-7:45pm?
>
>
>
> > On 11 Jul 2018, at 11:30 am, Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 11 Jul 2018, at 11:22 am, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 11 Jul 2018, at 3:55 am, Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Jul 10, 2018, at 18:02, Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> In large part because DNS provides "a richer scheme that accommodates
> address families and multiple addresses with priorities".
> >>>
> >>> *cups hand to ear*
> >>>
> >>> Was that the sound of a distant desire to specify use of SRV for HTTP?
> >>>
> >>
> >> I recently did some digging on this topic, and can try to characterise
> what the issues / objections are.
> >
> > I think there are three main objections.
> >
> > 1) Wildcards don’t work with prefixes.
> > 2) Additional data isn’t always returned it may require multiple round
> trips.
> > 3) Additional data processing doesn’t support negative responses.
> >
> > All of these issues are trivially easy to fix.  It just require
> willingness to implement.
> >
> > 1) is addressed by defining a new type(s) rather than using prefixes.
> > 2) is addressed by getting recursive servers to fill in missing
> additional data before returning.  Named has code in review for this for
> SRV as proof of concept.
> > 3) is addressed by adding some signalling between the client and
> recursive server to indicate if the additional section is complete or not.
> >
> >
> >> Would people be interested in a (hopefully brief) side meeting to
> discuss and maybe come to a shared understanding of the problem space?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> --
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