Re: Negotiated noncompliance
list-ietf-wg-apps-drums@faerber.muc.de ( Claus Färber ) Fri, 25 August 2000 15:44 UTC
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Robert Elz <kre@munnari.OZ.AU> schrieb/wrote: > On the LF issue specifically, do we have any evidence at all that any > large number of clients are still doing this? Sending bare LF is not the only problem. There is also an interoperability problem regarding the handling of bare LF on the receiving side. According to the current standard, bare LFs are allowed within mail data. However, I don't think that _any_ implementation will actually handle it correctly. The whole CRLF/LF problem is due to a implementation technique mandated by C/C++ libraries: They detect line endings based on the LF only. As a result this is what also most MTA implementations do. They then strip the CR and treat the result as a line. So if they receive a bare LF, they either give an error because the CR is missing /or/ treat it as equivalent to CRLF. Both is illegal according to the standard (within message bodies). Further, implementations on Unix-like systems tend to write the message to their queue or to user's mailboxes with their local line-ending conventions. So even if the smtpd part would handle bare LFs correctly, they would be converted to CRLF when the message is relayed to the next host via SMTP (or made available to a client via protocols such as IMAP, POP3 or even local file access). So while sending bare LFs within mail bodies is allowed by the standard, it just won't work with most MTAs and MUAs running on the Internet. It's too late to change the installed base of MTAs and MUAs. Better change the standard to explicitly disallow (or at least discourage) bare LFs within message texts. Although I know it's very late, I thus propose the following change in section 4.1.1.4 DATA (DATA): < codes, although experience has indicated that use of control characters < other than SP, HT, CR, and LF (especially the ASCII "Null" character) < may cause problems and SHOULD be avoided when possible. > codes, although experience has indicated that use of control characters > other than SP, CR and HT (especially the ASCII "Null" and bare LF > characters) may cause problems and SHOULD be avoided when possible. Claus -- http://www.faerber.muc.de
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