Re: Negotiated noncompliance
Graham Klyne <gk-lists@dial.pipex.com> Wed, 30 August 2000 11:03 UTC
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Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 11:54:18 +0100
To: Keith Moore <moore@cs.utk.edu>
From: Graham Klyne <gk-lists@dial.pipex.com>
Subject: Re: Negotiated noncompliance
Cc: lear@cisco.com, John Gardiner Myers <jgmyers@netscape.com>, drums@cs.utk.edu
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At 09:19 AM 8/17/00 -0400, Keith Moore wrote: >Eliot's text is a lot closer to what I think. > >However, using MAY may be too strong - it implies that behavior which >an SMTP engages in to accomodate a broken peer is within the scope of >the standard. It might be better to say that if an implementation >deviates from the SMTP spec in an attempt to accomodate another >implementation which deviates from the SMTP spec, such behavior is >outside of the scope of the standard. ... Yes! While I appreciate the motivation for the texts offered, I think we want to try and avoid expending too many words on describing what the standard is not. So, slightly re-working Keith's text might yield the following: An implementation may deviate from this specification in an attempt to interwork with another non-conformant implementation, but any such behavior is outside of the scope of the standard. [Note: lower case "may".] #g
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- Re: Negotiated noncompliance Eliot Lear
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- Re: Negotiated noncompliance John Gardiner Myers
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