IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [dsfjdssdfsd] what not to do...

Alexandre Anzala-Yamajako <anzalaya@gmail.com> Wed, 02 April 2014 15:49 UTC

Return-Path: <anzalaya@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: dsfjdssdfsd@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dsfjdssdfsd@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD611A029E for <dsfjdssdfsd@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Apr 2014 08:49:47 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.999
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GU4oPaudcMLL for <dsfjdssdfsd@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Apr 2014 08:49:42 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-vc0-x229.google.com (mail-vc0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c03::229]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0070E1A0284 for <dsfjdssdfsd@ietf.org>; Wed, 2 Apr 2014 08:49:41 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-vc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id ik5so587866vcb.0 for <dsfjdssdfsd@ietf.org>; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 08:49:38 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=wfInKkg5aC3Uv01Dm/zoycxGjopCFcH6iDrGxXJo1U0=; b=FtyKjCzgey2rUwiN/gCX8taRuale5/IrEPjBoYns+9zwneDJkHOKd2RoYy195DS2lI InIUWa42Z4WR/ZHZyWEEfXJGcSx2gESH868N0DrbaXOCvXBhXxzwj9cqffdiH+cf4ECa 5aR2OcIDr0u6QyE8CBJXBZDkmjaTIFgEsgl8WW7TU9oi/8jZ7AFdwrJBUFPrD6bSD3al 9jzcgrVQKtbu6hkI4drl53YLX6T0gtIBZ1DAe6jScCErwtdlUYh1qvwQAnYujHgiV3BI 8t/1zKYZWmVYxhIsd+wP18H4nrbdvXSVjJcErscc6Om55iFoM9J5I5hX8WvatCUmUTTY Fh/w==
X-Received: by 10.52.180.98 with SMTP id dn2mr1306560vdc.58.1396453777890; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 08:49:37 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.220.240.207 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Apr 2014 08:48:57 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <CACsn0c=x3K3NDHve3sKvaFuk_08Xp+wepPN=nkj00bLKNyOK0A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <533AF317.5070901@cs.tcd.ie> <CACXcFm=ts6JWuW+pQtaqZ720QDxnEa22UZW2NiBYMgCCV7MPuw@mail.gmail.com> <CAF4+nEF8N5C7zmGh5TBnp29zP1Fi2PMzoU4x4EEH8hY82PnS0w@mail.gmail.com> <CACsn0c=x3K3NDHve3sKvaFuk_08Xp+wepPN=nkj00bLKNyOK0A@mail.gmail.com>
From: Alexandre Anzala-Yamajako <anzalaya@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 17:48:57 +0200
Message-ID: <CAHE9jN0AZ6f_PpEn5CsZGHi8q_xmv6+1G7PjS4vsrjdOCXUOUg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51a821a60648704f6113b50
Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dsfjdssdfsd/FTo6JBE_Ql5N61yQ1jusfENThmw
Cc: Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com>, "dsfjdssdfsd@ietf.org" <dsfjdssdfsd@ietf.org>, Sandy Harris <sandyinchina@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [dsfjdssdfsd] what not to do...
X-BeenThere: dsfjdssdfsd@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: "The dsfjdssdfsd list provides a venue for discussion of randomness in IETF protocols, for example related to updating RFC 4086." <dsfjdssdfsd.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dsfjdssdfsd>, <mailto:dsfjdssdfsd-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dsfjdssdfsd/>
List-Post: <mailto:dsfjdssdfsd@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dsfjdssdfsd-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dsfjdssdfsd>, <mailto:dsfjdssdfsd-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:49:47 -0000

Watson,
In a world where everybody would only do what they qualified for and know
when to call for help I would agree with you but I think you underestimate
how many well meaning people would consider that sampling the system clock
is "unpredicatble enough".
Listing all the ways you could mess things up is obviously a lost cause but
naming a few bad ideas serves as a good cautionary tale IMO

Sincerely


-- 
Alexandre Anzala-Yamajako

v2.1.2.p1 | Report a Bug | By Email