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Re: [dsii] Potential IETF Work Items

Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 15 August 2012 15:46 UTC

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On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Melinda Shore
<melinda.shore@nomountain.net> wrote:
> It seems to me that it might be a good idea for the IETF guys
> to take a step back and let the non-IETF people with specific
> expertise to sort out what problems they need to have solved.

I don't think the intent here was for the current IETF guys to drive
this; it was to provide a vehicle (WG) for the current DSII folks to
drive, without them having to tool up their own set of mechanics, road
makers, and so on.  If they take us up on that, they become IETF folks
as well, which solves the problem you raise.

Without them coming to participate, it would be silly and presumptuous
for the IETF to take on the work, and I assume the IESG would want
solid evidence of participation from the relevant community before
chartering the work.  But if they do decide to use our structures, I
personally believe that we'd get some reasonable cross fertilization.

Just my two cents,

Ted Hardie

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