Re: [dsii] Potential IETF Work Items
Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@nomountain.net> Tue, 14 August 2012 18:28 UTC
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On 8/14/12 10:13 AM, Leif Johansson wrote: > I'd agree but for one thing: libraries are increasingly (operated by) > content providers which to mind mind increases the likelihood that we'd > have the right people at the table. I'm still not buying it. If you're thinking of things like the Internet Archive I'm not convinced that they aren't well-served by current technologies. If they've got some problems they need to have solved it would be far better for them to describe their problems and provide requirements than it is for us to show up on their doorstep and say "Hi, we're the IETF, and we've got technology we want you to use." It seems to me that to the extent there are issues in this space it's in what the proponents of the work (and others) are calling "big data." In the US we're seeing requirements from funding agencies for PIs to share their data, and I know that at the University of Alaska (my previous couple of gigs) they've got some very, very large collections of satellite data, climate data, GIS data, and so on that they're trying to either share for free or sell for $$$. They probably have problems around those. But. They didn't come to the IETF, and for all I know they're not even on this mailing list (I did send pointers to some people involved in the data repository work up there). Personally, I think this is an enormously interesting area but if there's something in here that's appropriate for the IETF (other than fiddly stuff like internationalization of metadata strings) I'm not quite seeing it yet. Melinda -- Melinda Shore No Mountain Software melinda.shore@nomountain.com "Software longa, hardware brevis."
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- Re: [dsii] Potential IETF Work Items Melinda Shore
- Re: [dsii] Potential IETF Work Items Andrew Maffei
- Re: [dsii] Potential IETF Work Items Leif Johansson
- Re: [dsii] Potential IETF Work Items Melinda Shore
- Re: [dsii] Potential IETF Work Items Ed Summers
- Re: [dsii] Potential IETF Work Items Scott Brim
- Re: [dsii] Potential IETF Work Items Andrew Maffei
- Re: [dsii] Potential IETF Work Items Ted Hardie
- Re: [dsii] Potential IETF Work Items Melinda Shore
- Re: [dsii] Potential IETF Work Items Ted Hardie
- Re: [dsii] Potential IETF Work Items Melinda Shore
- Re: [dsii] Potential IETF Work Items Guangqing Deng
- Re: [dsii] Potential IETF Work Items Andrew Maffei
- Re: [dsii] Potential IETF Work Items Beth Plale
- Re: [dsii] Potential IETF Work Items Melinda Shore
- Re: [dsii] Potential IETF Work Items Guangqing Deng
- Re: [dsii] Potential IETF Work Items Guangqing Deng
- Re: [dsii] Potential IETF Work Items Beth Plale
- Re: [dsii] Potential IETF Work Items Scott Brim