Re: [Dtls-iot] dice wg future work... or time to declare victory?

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Mon, 26 October 2015 13:34 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Dtls-iot] dice wg future work... or time to declare victory?
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On 26/10/15 13:30, Shahid Raza wrote:
> some fake criticism (unfortunately more loud)

That is also inappropriate. You may not agree with them, but your
disagreeing does not mean that whoever was criticising was being
disingenuous and it is not appropriate (not productive) to try to
denigrate other IETF participants in that manner.

S.