Re: [Dtls-iot] dice wg future work... or time to declare victory?

Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net> Tue, 20 October 2015 16:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Dtls-iot] dice wg future work... or time to declare victory?
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And thanks to the chairs and to Stephen for the support!

On 10/20/2015 05:58 PM, Zach Shelby wrote:
> Hannes,
> 
> I think that makes good sense.
> 
> Zach
> 
>> On 20 Oct 2015, at 08:48, Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>; wrote:
>>
>> Let's close the group and cover group communication in the ACE working
>> group instead. It is my impression that the train for adding multicast
>> security to DTLS has left the station already a while ago and folks are
>> in the meanwhile looking at an application layer security solution instead.
>>
>> On top of that there are far too few (security) people around so that
>> the overlap between ACE and DICE is almost 100% anyway. Those who are
>> interested group security are even a small subset of the security folks
>> in general (let alone those who have domain expertise in, for example,
>> the lighting domain).
>>
>> Ciao
>> Hannes
>>
>>
>> On 10/20/2015 05:35 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Congratulations to all involved in getting the DTLS profile
>>> document done and through the process.
>>>
>>> Now that that's done, and given that the originally planned
>>> work on group communication hasn't progressed as planned (due
>>> to us discovering that it was trickier than we initially
>>> thought), I think it's time for the WG to evaluate whether
>>> it's time to declare victory and close the WG, or if there's
>>> some other work to be done.
>>>
>>> In chatting with the chairs, we figured that perhaps now is
>>> time to declare victory, but of course that's a topic to talk
>>> about here, so please send your thoughts on the topic to the
>>> list in the next week or two and the chairs and I will see
>>> where we think things are at.
>>>
>>> Cheers and well done again,
>>> Stephen, Dorothy ad Zach.
>>>
>>> PS: The list can remain open even if we do end up closing
>>> the working group if that's useful.
>>>
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