Re: [Dtls-iot] dice wg future work... or time to declare victory?

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Mon, 26 October 2015 12:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Dtls-iot] dice wg future work... or time to declare victory?
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Replying to a few things at once...

On 26/10/15 11:06, Marco Tiloca wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> Does anyone yet support considering our recent contribution [1] as a
> future (last) action in DICE?
> 
> Best regards,
> /Marco
> 
> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tiloca-dice-secure-groupcomm/
> 

If some work does get traction and has good security properties
we'll find a venue for that, so whether your draft progresses is
much more influenced by it's security properties and whether or
not people want to implement/use it.

On 26/10/15 11:30, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>> Let's close the group and cover group communication in the ACE working
>> group instead.
>
> I'm not sure that ACE is the right WG for this, we don't do comsec there
> (we need it, but import it from elsewhere).
>
> (COSE might be the right WG, but that is rather focused on one
technology.)

Again, I'd focus on defining the right piece(s) of work that have
good security properties and developer interest. If such pieces of
work exist, we'll find a venue or form a new wg if needed.

>
> One other DICE thing that is still open is DTLS-over-SMS.  No idea
> whether we have the energy to finish this, but I seem to remember it is
> mostly done.

If someone is willing and able right now is the time to say that.


On 26/10/15 11:43, Shahid Raza wrote:
> I also think we are not done with the DICE charter. To complete the
> work, I would prefer current chairs but will not mind new chair(s) if
> the group is closing only because of the unavailability of the
> current chairs.

If there is DICE work to be done, then I'll chat with Zach and Dorothy
about availability, but chair availability or lack thereof is not why
I at least think we're done here. And if there's good work to be done
and people to do it, we'll find new chairs if need be.

In summary, I'm seeing some level of interest in a few things, but
nothing that yet convinces me there's enough to keep DICE around so
far.

Cheers,
S.