Re: [Dtls-iot] Secure Time (again)

Michael StJohns <msj@nthpermutation.com> Tue, 11 August 2015 18:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Dtls-iot] Secure Time (again)
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On 8/11/2015 11:31 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>
> On 11/08/15 15:58, Michael StJohns wrote:
>> I'm wondering if it might not be a bad idea to invite Dave Mills to come
>> to an IETF to do a presentation on secure mesh time and give us his
>> thoughts.
> We could and that'd be a really useful great talk if it happened. But
> we also have an active WG on this topic. [1] Maybe starting by asking
> there would help?
>
> S.
>
> [1] https://tools.ietf.org/wg/tictoc/

Hi Stephen -

 From the tictoc charter:
> The Timing over IP Connections and Transfer Of Clock (TICTOC) WG is
>      concerned with highly accurate time and frequency distribution over
>      native IP and MPLS-enabled IP Packet Switched Networks (PSNs)

I knew about the group, but I didn't think it was a great fit for IOT 
stuff for a lot of reasons including their desire for "highly accurate 
time" against the IOT desire for lightweight.   As I read the charter, 
tictoc is NTP on steroids and what we want is NTP on depressants.  :-)  
They really aren't trying to solve a problem in a manner that would have 
applicability to IOT.

Mike