Re: [Dtls-iot] dice wg future work... or time to declare victory?

Marco Tiloca <marco@sics.se> Mon, 26 October 2015 11:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Dtls-iot] dice wg future work... or time to declare victory?
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Hello everyone,

Does anyone yet support considering our recent contribution [1] as a
future (last) action in DICE?

Best regards,
/Marco

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tiloca-dice-secure-groupcomm/

On 2015-10-20 18:06, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
> And thanks to the chairs and to Stephen for the support!
>
> On 10/20/2015 05:58 PM, Zach Shelby wrote:
>> Hannes,
>>
>> I think that makes good sense.
>>
>> Zach
>>
>>> On 20 Oct 2015, at 08:48, Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>; wrote:
>>>
>>> Let's close the group and cover group communication in the ACE working
>>> group instead. It is my impression that the train for adding multicast
>>> security to DTLS has left the station already a while ago and folks are
>>> in the meanwhile looking at an application layer security solution instead.
>>>
>>> On top of that there are far too few (security) people around so that
>>> the overlap between ACE and DICE is almost 100% anyway. Those who are
>>> interested group security are even a small subset of the security folks
>>> in general (let alone those who have domain expertise in, for example,
>>> the lighting domain).
>>>
>>> Ciao
>>> Hannes
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/20/2015 05:35 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Congratulations to all involved in getting the DTLS profile
>>>> document done and through the process.
>>>>
>>>> Now that that's done, and given that the originally planned
>>>> work on group communication hasn't progressed as planned (due
>>>> to us discovering that it was trickier than we initially
>>>> thought), I think it's time for the WG to evaluate whether
>>>> it's time to declare victory and close the WG, or if there's
>>>> some other work to be done.
>>>>
>>>> In chatting with the chairs, we figured that perhaps now is
>>>> time to declare victory, but of course that's a topic to talk
>>>> about here, so please send your thoughts on the topic to the
>>>> list in the next week or two and the chairs and I will see
>>>> where we think things are at.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers and well done again,
>>>> Stephen, Dorothy ad Zach.
>>>>
>>>> PS: The list can remain open even if we do end up closing
>>>> the working group if that's useful.
>>>>
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