Re: [dtn-interest] HTTP-DTN implementations was RE: New Version Notification for draft-wood-dtnrg-http-dtn-delivery-08.txt
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Subject: Re: [dtn-interest] HTTP-DTN implementations was RE: New Version Notification for draft-wood-dtnrg-http-dtn-delivery-08.txt
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Thanks, Jéferson. Changes from even -00 of the http-dtn draft aren't that major. Interesting how the IETF's legal boilerplate has changed over the years, though... http://tools.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/rfcdiff.pyht?url1=draft-wood-dtnrg-http-dtn-delivery-00.txt&url2=draft-wood-dtnrg-http-dtn-delivery-08.txt Lloyd Wood http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/dtn/http-dtn.html ________________________________________ From: jeferson.nobre@gmail.com <jeferson.nobre@gmail.com> on behalf of Jéferson Campos Nobre <jcnobre@inf.ufrgs.br> Sent: Sunday, 11 May 2014 9:28 AM To: dtn-interest@irtf.org; Wood L Dr (Electronic Eng) Subject: Re: [dtn-interest] HTTP-DTN implementations was RE: New Version Notification for draft-wood-dtnrg-http-dtn-delivery-08.txt Hi there. Just to add up some context on Lloyd's email. The HTTP-DTN code mentioned is a component of a prototype P2P-based network management framework called ManP2P-ng. My research group developed this component in order to investigate DTN management considering terrestrial environments. The code is really experimental (pre-alpha) and it is based on previous versions of the HTTP-DTN draft. Thus, I am not sure how it compares to the last draft. Cheers. Jéferson Campos Nobre PhD Student Computer Networks Group - Institute of Informatics Federal University of Rio Grande do Sul http://www.inf.ufrgs.br/~jcnobre On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:28 AM, <l.wood@surrey.ac.uk> wrote: > Oh, there's a public HTTP-DTN implementation (with open MIT License) in > ManP2P-NG. > > https://github.com/ComputerNetworks-UFRGS/ManP2P-ng/ > > > Papers describing this HTTP-DTN implementation include: > > > http://dx.doi.org/10.1109/ISCC.2013.6755026 > > Self-* properties and P2P technology on disruption-tolerant management, > J. Campos Nobre, P. Arthur Pinheiro Rosa Duarte, L. Zambenedetti > Granville and L. Margarida Rockenbach Tarouco, 2013 IEEE Symposium on > Computers and Communications (ISCC), pp. 676-681, 7-10 July 2013. > > http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/articleDetails.jsp?arnumber=6573064 > Delay-Tolerant Management Using Self-* Properties and P2P Technology, > J. Campos Nobre, P. Arthur Pinheiro Rosa Duarte, L. Zambenedetti > Granville and L. Margarida Rockenbach Tarouco, IFIP/IEEE International > Symposium on Integrated Network Management (IM 2013), Ghent, pp. > 728-731, 27-31 May 2013. > > > > Lloyd Wood > http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/dtn/http-dtn.html > ________________________________ > From: Wood L Dr (Electronic Eng) > Sent: Tuesday, 6 May 2014 11:07 PM > To: dtn-interest@irtf.org > Subject: FW: New Version Notification for > draft-wood-dtnrg-http-dtn-delivery-08.txt > > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wood-dtnrg-http-dtn-delivery > > Based on recent discussion, we have just updated our http-dtn draft. > > > http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/dtn/http-dtn > > has related papers, and there's also some discussion of http-dtn in our > > 'Bundle of Problems' paper, which I may have mentioned previously. > > >>> In particular, the HTTP-DTN concept clearly merits serious >>> consideration as a way of addressing the well-known challenges of >>> delay-tolerant networking, but I don't think this BoF request >>> discussion is the right place to try to conduct that serious >>> consideration. >> >> I think Lloyd's http-dtn stuff is maybe one possible approach but the >> issue of whether or not an IETF WG prioritises ease of terrestrial >> deployment or prioritises minimal change to 5050 is basically >> independent of http-dtn. So we shouldn't get hung up on a false >> dichotomy there. >> >>> What I think would make more sense would be for a couple of >>> experimental HTTP-DTN implementations to be developed and exercised >>> in practical deployment scenarios, just as has been done with the >>> DTNRG's BP-based protocol suite over the past decade, so that we >>> can all get a better sense of the architecture's demonstrated >>> advantages and disadvantages. The DTNRG seems to me to be the >>> right venue for that research. > > > On Tuesday, 6 May 2014, 22:53, "internet-drafts@ietf.org" > <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote: > > A new version of I-D, draft-wood-dtnrg-http-dtn-delivery-08.txt > has been successfully submitted by Lloyd Wood and posted to the > IETF repository. > > Name: draft-wood-dtnrg-http-dtn-delivery > Revision: 08 > Title: Using HTTP for delivery in Delay/Disruption-Tolerant Networks > Document date: 2014-05-06 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 11 > URL: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-wood-dtnrg-http-dtn-delivery-08.txt > Status: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wood-dtnrg-http-dtn-delivery/ > Htmlized: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wood-dtnrg-http-dtn-delivery-08 > Diff: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-wood-dtnrg-http-dtn-delivery-08 > > Abstract: > This document describes how to use the Hypertext Transfer Protocol, > HTTP, for communication across delay- and disruption-tolerant > networks, by making every transit node in the network HTTP-capable, > and doing peer HTTP transfers between nodes to move data hop-by-hop > or subnet-by-subnet towards its final destination. HTTP is well- > known and straightforward to implement in these networks. > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > The IETF Secretariat > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dtn-interest mailing list > dtn-interest@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/dtn-interest >
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