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Re: [dtn] [EXTERNAL] BPbis consensus status

"R. Atkinson" <rja.lists@gmail.com> Thu, 17 September 2020 22:46 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dtn] [EXTERNAL] BPbis consensus status
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> On Sep 16, 2020, at 23:25, Marc Blanchet <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca> wrote:
> ... as current Internet deployment tells us, the applications need to be aware
> of security services ...

Marc,

Your words above - to the extent they are true — are a reason 
to have a well documented BPsec API which applications can use
if/when appropriate.

Such an API probably should be documented in an Informational RFC.
Is that something you might want to undertake — since you are so
passionate about it ??

From a logic perspective, those words quoted above are really NOT a reason 
for  BPsec to be optional to implement.

Yours,

Ran

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