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Re: [dtn] Marking RFC5050 as Obsolete?

"lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk" <lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk> Tue, 24 September 2019 12:12 UTC

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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 12:12:04 +0000
From: "lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk" <lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk>
To: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>, "R. Atkinson" <rja.lists@gmail.com>, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
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Subject: Re: [dtn] Marking RFC5050 as Obsolete?
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The IESG note at the start of RFC5050 *is* the formalnotification; the IETF has already washed their hands of it,CCSDS was already told, as were all readers.


done and dusted.

Given that warning, how the IETF can declare somethingit's already disclaimed to be obsolete is a puzzle to me.It's withdrawing an endorsement that was never there.


Lloyd Wood
http://lloydwood.users.sf.net/Personal/L.Wood/dtn
 

    On Tuesday, 24 September 2019, 21:50:15 GMT+10, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:  
 
 
That all sounds right to me, as does obsoleting 5050.

One tweak though - at some point someone should check
(informally) if CCSDS need some formal notification
about this or not.

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