Re: [dtn] AMA Adoption

William Ivancic <ivancic@syzygyengineering.com> Sat, 29 July 2017 00:19 UTC

Return-Path: <ivancic@syzygyengineering.com>
X-Original-To: dtn@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dtn@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB43131C24 for <dtn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 28 Jul 2017 17:19:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -4.697
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.697 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=yahoo.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c12p8UOZ-pj0 for <dtn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 28 Jul 2017 17:19:20 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from smtp104.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (smtp104.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.144.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1735132096 for <dtn@ietf.org>; Fri, 28 Jul 2017 17:19:19 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 56009 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2017 00:19:19 -0000
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1501287558; bh=EfZ1kJGOpCpyem7NYdHz6iV1NsQU8IJt/kxhZg+KELE=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-version:Content-type; b=iR/lSbVsACnpVCDym07ESpu/QoTSCCCaCLXCu064eKmvXVfEBefUvVHxP2nwwjQW4FimtkXPeAzvrLWpS+sLbMWJ12TtflUa//HgTpaI3kvZuLXDR1KC9sWZZfkFr82t3ecp40LhB4piYAMaHuOs8vPYFRMN9B4+ZUp0IVWm/pk=
X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3
X-YMail-OSG: UvOAwKQVM1mxIR4TwtyVbXUYAMzx1BeJOc6A2Qx8azIJ6cw iVeBGhpa0jizwGiGlNa8loNFBior_3tiXf4MFSaMjctv0KIN3OiRCwA3vI7X UlHu3qlqvNyPUDQlJyFqr3ZTGdAuqZwI5FzTxKT6CYHxN.Gk72W9cix5C6cj tBpQi7PbOQUoG24juK_DlbIWk6rdcorHNLTWFWd3P_Heqh7iL3LkzdBA1.kQ O528mf__9.pdxIfUsnSnFvJINw4l3Pq.sA1msHWgpRun3HWGN7ayQF6dm.De AvdsNbjD8HDFATBixnzvVy_8lu0xVU5zJ0Kb79OmHpm7ZU7OFy4ldwzER4r7 zPquu3JN6PVXFLmcCxT9hSj.ZwstG5xlCmjmIeHRjVu6uv3IRqkeEeGbi2rg APc7qho5vwacUjPZah6chPECxrZDa8.3IJPFRvJC6yn9SJri5o7cANMKztIi fPlzKebx.v54oA6u_Ps1g0uRdhsKFj7jQ9oamHmiymMwjiOqElmB5S2x3Wtd 4TGDvahfe2exmeFWtA7LZQbJIS984VEHgjRffyXo-
X-Yahoo-SMTP: 8oAoZxqswBCLMwr8oLfpmeSVcF8-
User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/f.20.0.170309
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 20:19:31 -0400
From: William Ivancic <ivancic@syzygyengineering.com>
To: Jéferson Campos Nobre <jcnobre@inf.ufrgs.br>, "Birrane, Edward J." <Edward.Birrane@jhuapl.edu>, "dtn@ietf.org" <dtn@ietf.org>
Message-ID: <8F715EFD-491E-459C-87DF-CD7FBF5735B4@syzygyengineering.com>
Thread-Topic: [dtn] AMA Adoption
References: <1501170948326.65397@jhuapl.edu> <CABv6xLuEM=B9ph-QCU3etbGP2Sm1O+AJjOFkJiKC7z9usT4pEg@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <CABv6xLuEM=B9ph-QCU3etbGP2Sm1O+AJjOFkJiKC7z9usT4pEg@mail.gmail.com>
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3584117973_920769100"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dtn/o3SlVj0QiJ5_s6cBJDCythvv2Hc>
Subject: Re: [dtn] AMA Adoption
X-BeenThere: dtn@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Delay Tolerant Networking \(DTN\) discussion list at the IETF." <dtn.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dtn>, <mailto:dtn-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dtn/>
List-Post: <mailto:dtn@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dtn-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dtn>, <mailto:dtn-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 00:19:22 -0000

I am still lurking. 

 

Will

 

From: dtn <dtn-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Jéferson Campos Nobre <jcnobre@inf.ufrgs.br>
Date: Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 2:12 PM
To: "Birrane, Edward J." <Edward.Birrane@jhuapl.edu>, "dtn@ietf.org" <dtn@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [dtn] AMA Adoption

 

Hi Ed.

I support the WG adoption of the AMA I-D.

Besides that, I would like to propose the reboot of the DTN management requirements draft on the NMRG, which can help to "draw the distinction of engineering and research work" as you mentioned.

BTW, the author of the DTN management requirements draft, William D. Ivancic, is still a DTN contributor?

Best.

 

----------------------------------------------------

Prof. Dr. Jéferson Campos Nobre

Escola Politécnica

Universidade do Vale do Rio dos Sinos

http://professor.unisinos.br/jcnobre

----------------------------------------------------

 

Em qui, 27 de jul de 2017 às 12:55, Birrane, Edward J. <Edward.Birrane@jhuapl.edu> escreveu:

DTNWG,

 

  The working group has a milestone for "Network Management Requirements" for February 2017. IIRC from the discussions when these milestones were being formed, this was to bound the problem space of network management and, perhaps, draw a distinction between engineering work and research work.

 

  The Asynchronous Management Architecture (AMA)  (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-birrane-dtn-ama-05​) is an attempt to capture how to perform network management in a challenged environment (scaling from low-latency automation to high-latency autonomy).  The document has been presented at several working group meetings without any significant changes.

 

  I propose that the AMA is close to satisfying the charter need for network management requirements and that any additional changes should be handled in the context of the working group.

 

  Can we use this thread to discuss WG adoption of AMA?

 

-Ed

​

---
Edward J. Birrane, III, Ph.D.
Embedded Applications Group Supervisor
Space Exploration Sector
Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory
(W) 443-778-7423 / (F) 443-228-3839

_______________________________________________
dtn mailing list
dtn@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dtn

_______________________________________________ dtn mailing list dtn@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dtn