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[dtn] on obsoleting RFC5050

"Marc Blanchet" <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca> Thu, 17 October 2019 10:18 UTC

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From: Marc Blanchet <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca>
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Subject: [dtn] on obsoleting RFC5050
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Hello,
based on the various inputs and good discussion on the mailing list 
regarding obsoleting RFC5050, the chairs have come to this conclusion. 
Please state your support or not so we can move forward.

Regards, Marc&Rick, co-chairs.

* RFC5050 is an experimental RFC, done in IRTF, while 
draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis will be a Standard track RFC, done in IETF. 
Different streams, different processes.
* we believe there is a strong consensus to _not_ continue working on 
RFC5050 and not try to be backward compatible. RFC5050 implementations 
and deployments can continue as they see fit.
* IANA registries have their own life, whatever the stream or type of 
RFC they were created from. They can always be updated by a new RFC.
* Given that, we suggest the following steps:
     * 1) draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis would not obsolete RFC5050. Instead we 
would notify IRTF that draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis is an update of RFC5050. 
IRTF will decide what they want to do, if anything, with RFC5050.
     * 2) in the new version of the charter that we are currently 
working on, we will state clearly that there is no intent to work on or 
make compatible work with RFC5050 and related RFCs
     * 3) DTN working group document authors will review the IANA 
registries as they are today and request whatever modifications needed, 
which may include changing the policies, the content, the rules, …

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