Re: [dtn] Various IESG "DISCUSS" positions on draft-ietf-dtn-*

"Taylor, Rick" <rick.taylor@airbus.com> Wed, 12 February 2020 10:45 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dtn] Various IESG "DISCUSS" positions on draft-ietf-dtn-*
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+1 Magnus,

We have mentioned routing, naming and addressing as part of the recharter.

Rick

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Subject: Re: [dtn] Various IESG "DISCUSS" positions on draft-ietf-dtn-*

Hi,

I think Ran's request is reasonable in general. I also noted in another email that maybe the fact that the WG is continuing to build components that can be used to build a system is being developed and that going from some core functionalities the set of defined components and functions will continue to be expanded on. And  although at the point of publication of these initial core documents these parts are not done, more can be found. I think naming, addressing and routing is one such area where more work will happen. 

Cheers

Magnus Westerlund
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On Mon, 2020-02-10 at 16:15 +0000, Burleigh, Scott C (US 312B) wrote:
> Sure, I can certainly do that.
> 
> Scott
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dtn <dtn-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Taylor, Rick
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 2:29 AM
> To: R. Atkinson <rja.lists@gmail.com>; dtn@ietf.org
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> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dtn] Various IESG "DISCUSS" positions on 
> draft-ietf-
> dtn-*
> 
> 
> Hi Ran,
> 
> You make a very valid point.  Can I reach out to the authors in 
> advance of Vancouver, to request that they perhaps present a short 
> piece on what last minute changes have gone in.
> 
> Of course, any summaries to the list would be great as well, but I 
> understand it is still a little bit of a moving target.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rick Taylor
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dtn [mailto:dtn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of R. Atkinson
> Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 7:05 PM
> To: dtn@ietf.org
> Cc: iesg@ietf.org
> Subject: [dtn] Various IESG "DISCUSS" positions on draft-ietf-dtn-*
> 
> 
> All,
> 
> It is great to see such rapid email list responses answering various 
> questions and seeking to address concerns on various topics — from various IESG members.
> 
> I am concerned that we all keep in mind that implementers will be 
> working from the final RFCs — and in many cases will NOT be reading these email responses.
> 
> If something is unclear or unexplained in an I-D and an explanation 
> was needed to resolve one of the IESG member’s concerns, then IMHO 
> that should result in the I-D editors/authors editing the relevant 
> I-Ds to embed those clarifications inside the final RFC which WILL be referenced by implementers.
> 
> Purely as an example, if there is existing practice of using static 
> routes or using some external specification, the practice ought to be 
> documented and any applicable external specification ought to be both 
> mentioned in the I-D (at least briefly) and also cited.  That way the 
> reader won’t be left wondering how BP possibly could be deployed to the ISS or elsewhere.
> 
> Just 2 cents from the peanut gallery. :-)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Ran
> 
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