[dtn] draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-14.txt: IANA Considerations section

"Marc Blanchet" <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca> Tue, 06 August 2019 13:12 UTC

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Subject: [dtn] draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-14.txt: IANA Considerations section
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Hello,
  I respectfully disagree with our AD on his suggestion for the IANA 
considerations section on BPBIS.

- Before (-13), the IANA Considerations section was adding a few 
codepoints to a registry and defining another registry. typical. 
Straightforward.
- The current IANA registries for DTN have been defined by RFC6255, 
RFC6257, RFC6258, RFC7116 and RFC7242. They represent multiple 
specifications, and real use in the field.
- My understanding of AD suggestion was to import text from RFC6255 into 
BPbis, obsolete RFC6255 and then essentially asking to « recreate » 
some of the IANA registries.

I don’t see any value in this suggestion. On the contrary, I see 
confusion. IANA registries are typically created, populated, changed by 
a sequence of RFCs. The fact that in this case, the initial set of RFCs 
were from an RG and there were from an experimental protocol to me does 
not mean they have less value or change anything. 6255 is informational. 
The registries were created, were used and we continue using them in the 
next version of the protocol, with one where we add a few codepoints.

Therefore, (I’m sorry Scott), but I would suggest that we revert the 
IANA Considerations section to the previous version.

(As our AD said he is now in vacation for some weeks, I expect his reply 
somewhat later this month).

Marc.

On 4 Aug 2019, at 15:59, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:

> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
> directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Delay/Disruption Tolerant Networking 
> WG of the IETF.
>
>         Title           : Bundle Protocol Version 7
>         Authors         : Scott Burleigh
>                           Kevin Fall
>                           Edward J. Birrane
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-14.txt
> 	Pages           : 61
> 	Date            : 2019-08-04
>
> Abstract:
>    This Internet Draft presents a specification for Bundle Protocol,
>    adapted from the experimental Bundle Protocol specification
>    developed by the Delay-Tolerant Networking Research group of the
>    Internet Research Task Force and documented in RFC 5050.
>
>    It obsoletes RFC 5050 and RFC 6255.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis/
>
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-14
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-14
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-14
>
>
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