Re: [dtn] [EXTERNAL] draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-14.txt: IANA Considerations section
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From: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>
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Subject: Re: [dtn] [EXTERNAL] draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-14.txt: IANA Considerations section
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Hi, Marc it is very fine to disagree with me. Also I would like to quote a very specific part of my IANA comment: > Thus, I have to ask are you actually addressing the right > registry, or is the issue that you actually need per version specific > registries for example Bundle Block Types? I think Scott's comment below indicate that it is not obvious that a common registry for BP6 and BP7 is working without issues. So make up your mind in the WG considering the information you have so far and lets go with that. I have been part of efforts where people have gone both ways with how to handle different versions and registries. Cheers MAgnus On Tue, 2019-08-06 at 15:33 +0000, Burleigh, Scott C (US 312B) wrote: > Marc, I have no opinion at all as to where these registry definitions > should reside, but one note of clarification: the only registries for > which the new Section 10 text requests creation are new registries > that are different enough from the existing registries to conflict > with the original definitions (some registry entries are explicitly > reserved rather than defined, bit positions are different, etc.). In > a couple of cases it’s noted that the registries already exist; there > we’re just transcribing the definitions of those registries and > adding some new entries. > > Scott > > From: dtn <dtn-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Marc Blanchet > Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 6:13 AM > To: dtn@ietf.org > Cc: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] [dtn] draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-14.txt: IANA > Considerations section > > Hello, > I respectfully disagree with our AD on his suggestion for the IANA > considerations section on BPBIS. > Before (-13), the IANA Considerations section was adding a few > codepoints to a registry and defining another registry. typical. > Straightforward. > The current IANA registries for DTN have been defined by RFC6255, > RFC6257, RFC6258, RFC7116 and RFC7242. They represent multiple > specifications, and real use in the field. > My understanding of AD suggestion was to import text from RFC6255 > into BPbis, obsolete RFC6255 and then essentially asking to > « recreate » some of the IANA registries. > I don’t see any value in this suggestion. On the contrary, I see > confusion. IANA registries are typically created, populated, changed > by a sequence of RFCs. The fact that in this case, the initial set of > RFCs were from an RG and there were from an experimental protocol to > me does not mean they have less value or change anything. 6255 is > informational. The registries were created, were used and we continue > using them in the next version of the protocol, with one where we add > a few codepoints. > Therefore, (I’m sorry Scott), but I would suggest that we revert the > IANA Considerations section to the previous version. > (As our AD said he is now in vacation for some weeks, I expect his > reply somewhat later this month). > Marc. > On 4 Aug 2019, at 15:59, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > > directories. > > This draft is a work item of the Delay/Disruption Tolerant > > Networking WG of the IETF. > > > > Title : Bundle Protocol Version 7 > > Authors : Scott Burleigh > > Kevin Fall > > Edward J. Birrane > > Filename : draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-14.txt > > Pages : 61 > > Date : 2019-08-04 > > > > Abstract: > > This Internet Draft presents a specification for Bundle Protocol, > > adapted from the experimental Bundle Protocol specification > > developed by the Delay-Tolerant Networking Research group of the > > Internet Research Task Force and documented in RFC 5050. > > > > It obsoletes RFC 5050 and RFC 6255. > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis/ > > > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-14 > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-14 > > > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-14 > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > > submission > > until the htmlized version and diff are available at > > tools.ietf.org. > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dtn mailing list > > dtn@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dtn -- Cheers Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Network Architecture & Protocols, Ericsson Research ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Torshamnsgatan 23 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden | mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- [dtn] draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-14.txt: IANA Considera… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [dtn] [EXTERNAL] draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-14.txt:… Burleigh, Scott C (US 312B)
- Re: [dtn] [EXTERNAL] draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-14.txt:… Magnus Westerlund