Re: [Dyncast] Updates on Dyncast drafts

Aijun Wang <wangaijun@tsinghua.org.cn> Sat, 20 February 2021 02:42 UTC

Return-Path: <wangaijun@tsinghua.org.cn>
X-Original-To: dyncast@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dyncast@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F60D3A0EA0 for <dyncast@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 18:42:30 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.896
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.896 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ze7Y0Fm0mmcQ for <dyncast@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 18:42:27 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-m17638.qiye.163.com (mail-m17638.qiye.163.com [59.111.176.38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F00BA3A0EA1 for <dyncast@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 18:42:26 -0800 (PST)
Received: from DESKTOP2IOH5QC (unknown [219.142.69.75]) by mail-m17638.qiye.163.com (Hmail) with ESMTPA id C5AE51C01D8; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 10:42:21 +0800 (CST)
From: Aijun Wang <wangaijun@tsinghua.org.cn>
To: 'Dirk Trossen' <dirk.trossen@huawei.com>, dyncast@ietf.org
References: <33e65ba11ecb471b83248bf0a5aafc73@huawei.com>
In-Reply-To: <33e65ba11ecb471b83248bf0a5aafc73@huawei.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 10:42:21 +0800
Message-ID: <00a001d70732$03a652b0$0af2f810$@tsinghua.org.cn>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A1_01D70775.11CA7D10"
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0
Thread-Index: AQJARhSlo6UN8wd+7gkUi2Z5IHQxNamNziCQ
Content-Language: zh-cn
X-HM-Spam-Status: e1kfGhgUHx5ZQUtXWQgYFAkeWUFZS1VLWVdZKFlBSkxLS0o3V1ktWUFJV1 kPCRoVCBIfWUFZTk5JSE1MTk0ZTBlDVkpNSkhMQ0NCT0pCQkxVEwETFhoSFyQUDg9ZV1kWGg8SFR 0UWUFZT0tIVUpKS0hNSlVLWQY+
X-HM-Sender-Digest: e1kMHhlZQR0aFwgeV1kSHx4VD1lBWUc6OjY6GRw*OD8ULRo2FhE0STNO GjMKCw5VSlVKTUpITENDQk9JT0pNVTMWGhIXVQwaFRwaEhEOFTsPCBIVHBMOGlUUCRxVGBVFWVdZ EgtZQVlJSkJVSk9JVU1CVUxOWVdZCAFZQUlKSUlJNwY+
X-HM-Tid: 0a77bd510e36d993kuwsc5ae51c01d8
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dyncast/ESqq3bUao_3ScKe1g4HraRBHUVY>
Subject: Re: [Dyncast] Updates on Dyncast drafts
X-BeenThere: dyncast@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: <dyncast.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dyncast>, <mailto:dyncast-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dyncast/>
List-Post: <mailto:dyncast@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dyncast-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dyncast>, <mailto:dyncast-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 02:42:30 -0000

Hi, Dirk:

 

I have a quick review of the usecase and architecture draft that you
provides and think this is one interesting topic to discuss within IETF.

Regarding to the usecase draft, as I known, there are also other SDO(ITU
etc.) studying on this topic, can anyone share what their progress now and
can we refer to their work to prove the necessary of such service needed in
the network?

Regarding to the architecture draft, I am litter confusion about two mapping
components as described in section 5. " Dyncast Control-plane vs Data-plane
operations":

1.     Why we need the mapping of (D-SID, D-BID)?  

We are mentioning "Dynamic Anycast" architecture, why don't' use just one
unique D-SID in several locations for one service?  The router have the
capabilities to select what's the most optimal path to reach the service
that identified by D-SID.

 

2.     Why we need the mapping between D-Router and D-Forwarder?

It seems not easy to introduces the D-Forwarder entity into the network,
also the mapping between them. I think we should first focus on utilizing
the existing network devices to accomplish the aim.

 

The answers to your questions are inline below [WAJ].

 

Best Regards

 

Aijun Wang

China Telecom

 

 

 

From: dyncast-bounces@ietf.org <dyncast-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Dirk
Trossen
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 1:18 AM
To: dyncast@ietf.org
Subject: [Dyncast] Updates on Dyncast drafts

 

Dear All,

 

For the preparation to the planned side meeting at the upcoming IETF110
(more details on this will follow in a separate email), it is our intention
to formulate use cases, problems and architectural requirements for
addressing those problems in order to focus this side meeting on the
following two main questions:

1.       Are the use cases compelling and the problems worth to be discussed
and possibly solved in the routing area?

[WAJ] Yes, I think it is possibly solved in the routing area.

 

2.       What would be the best approach in doing so within the IETF, e.g.,
through a new WG focusing on dyncast or through contributions to existing,
protocol-specific WGs, with problem and requirements kept as contributions
to the RTG WG?

        [WAJ] Based on current information about the use case and the aim, I
think contributions to existing, protocol-specific WGs is feasible.

 

Depending on what the community thinks, we will go for a more formal meeting
at IETF111. 

 

As input material for our discussion, we have uploaded the following three
Dyncast drafts to the datatracker, namely the Dyncast use case and problem
statement at
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-liu-dyncast-ps-usecases-01.txt and the
Dyncast requirements at
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-liu-dyncast-reqs-00.txt. We have also
uploaded a draft outlining a possible Dyncast architecture at
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-li-dyncast-architecture-00.txt

 

Any comments or views on either of those two questions above are warmly
welcome in preparation to the planned side meeting. We hope to see many of
you there.

 

Best,

 

 

Dirk (on hehalf of the authors of the Dyncast drafts)